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		<title>By: Neil vN</title>
		<link>http://neilvn.com/tangents/2005/06/30/notes-on-using-nikon-ttl-flash/#comment-8292</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil vN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Kris .. since I don&#039;t have SB-80 speedlights any more or a D200, I can&#039;t really help you here and check.  Try posting this on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/groups/flash-photography/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Flickr group for flash photography&lt;/a&gt;, and perhaps someone there can be more specific.

thanks 

Neil vN&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Kris .. since I don&#8217;t have SB-80 speedlights any more or a D200, I can&#8217;t really help you here and check.  Try posting this on the <a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/flash-photography/" rel="nofollow">Flickr group for flash photography</a>, and perhaps someone there can be more specific.</p>
<p>thanks </p>
<p>Neil vN</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: kris</title>
		<link>http://neilvn.com/tangents/2005/06/30/notes-on-using-nikon-ttl-flash/#comment-8064</link>
		<dc:creator>kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil, 
Well written your easy to follow, easy to understand.

I have a question. I&#039;m trying to use a Nikon D200 a i-ttl system to fire 2-4 SB-80 DX&#039;s 
I know this is extremely limiting. But I was hoping I could set the camera and the SB-80&#039;s
to manual mode use the built in flash and they would fire. Of course I&#039;d adjust the flash
output on the flash themselves. But someone said I would need a d-ttl camera to fire
the master flash on the camera.

Sounds like even in &quot;manual mode&quot; the camera is using some part of ttl system to fire
other flashes? And the d200 has the wrong ttl system to fire the SB-80s?

If I had any extra $ I&#039;d simply get better strobes but I&#039;m trying to make due.

Appreciate your input,
Kris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil,<br />
Well written your easy to follow, easy to understand.</p>
<p>I have a question. I&#8217;m trying to use a Nikon D200 a i-ttl system to fire 2-4 SB-80 DX&#8217;s<br />
I know this is extremely limiting. But I was hoping I could set the camera and the SB-80&#8242;s<br />
to manual mode use the built in flash and they would fire. Of course I&#8217;d adjust the flash<br />
output on the flash themselves. But someone said I would need a d-ttl camera to fire<br />
the master flash on the camera.</p>
<p>Sounds like even in &#8220;manual mode&#8221; the camera is using some part of ttl system to fire<br />
other flashes? And the d200 has the wrong ttl system to fire the SB-80s?</p>
<p>If I had any extra $ I&#8217;d simply get better strobes but I&#8217;m trying to make due.</p>
<p>Appreciate your input,<br />
Kris</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://neilvn.com/tangents/2005/06/30/notes-on-using-nikon-ttl-flash/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 18:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Matt ... Whether you should expose for the ambient light or not, depends entirely on the scenario you have there.  And also whether you want to or even &lt;strong&gt;need&lt;/strong&gt; to expose for the ambient light.

Check out these other posts as some examples of the thought-process behind metering for ambient when using flash.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://neilvn.com/tangents/2009/02/02/ambient-exposure-with-ttl-flash/&quot;&gt; 1 &lt;/a&gt; . &lt;a href=&quot;http://neilvn.com/tangents/2009/03/08/the-cutie/&quot;&gt; 2 &lt;/a&gt; . &lt;a href=&quot;http://neilvn.com/tangents/2008/01/03/using-bounce-flash-outdoors/&quot;&gt; 3 &lt;/a&gt; . &lt;a href=&quot;http://neilvn.com/tangents/2009/05/28/shutter-speed-controls-background/&quot;&gt; 4 &lt;/a&gt;

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About your choice of 1/60th .. don&#039;t get hooked on the idea that 1/60th is a hand-holdable shutter speed.  It isn&#039;t necessarily true.

 - &lt;a href=&quot;http://neilvn.com/tangents/2008/10/05/faster-shutter-speeds-for-sharper-photos/&quot;&gt;faster shutter speeds for sharper photos&lt;/a&gt; 
 - &lt;a href=&quot;http://neilvn.com/tangents/2008/02/22/hand-holding-camera-at-slow-shutter-speeds/&quot;&gt;using slow shutter speeds while hand-holding your camera&lt;/a&gt;

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But then .. the rest of your question about letting the flash do the job.  Yes, that&#039;s generally how TTL flash works.  And that&#039;s the magic of TTL flash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Matt &#8230; Whether you should expose for the ambient light or not, depends entirely on the scenario you have there.  And also whether you want to or even <strong>need</strong> to expose for the ambient light.</p>
<p>Check out these other posts as some examples of the thought-process behind metering for ambient when using flash.</p>
<p><a href="http://neilvn.com/tangents/2009/02/02/ambient-exposure-with-ttl-flash/"> 1 </a> . <a href="http://neilvn.com/tangents/2009/03/08/the-cutie/"> 2 </a> . <a href="http://neilvn.com/tangents/2008/01/03/using-bounce-flash-outdoors/"> 3 </a> . <a href="http://neilvn.com/tangents/2009/05/28/shutter-speed-controls-background/"> 4 </a></p>
<p>.<br />
About your choice of 1/60th .. don&#8217;t get hooked on the idea that 1/60th is a hand-holdable shutter speed.  It isn&#8217;t necessarily true.</p>
<p> &#8211; <a href="http://neilvn.com/tangents/2008/10/05/faster-shutter-speeds-for-sharper-photos/">faster shutter speeds for sharper photos</a><br />
 &#8211; <a href="http://neilvn.com/tangents/2008/02/22/hand-holding-camera-at-slow-shutter-speeds/">using slow shutter speeds while hand-holding your camera</a></p>
<p>.<br />
But then .. the rest of your question about letting the flash do the job.  Yes, that&#8217;s generally how TTL flash works.  And that&#8217;s the magic of TTL flash.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Matt Bonnington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Bonnington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 09:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Neil,
I&#039;ve got a D200 and SB800 combination and I thought I had it pretty much nailed, but recently my shots have been terrible.  I&#039;m taking some shots inside right next to a huge window so there is plenty of ambient light.  I&#039;ve got the speedlight on the camera set to TTL.  Should I be exposing for the ambient light?  So with a 50mm lens should i be setting at least 1/60 and appropriate f-stop for the room light AND THEN the flash will do it&#039;s job?  I ask because I&#039;ve done some tests where I&#039;ve underexposed the scene (through the viewfinder) and then the flash has cone the rest.

Cheers
Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Neil,<br />
I&#8217;ve got a D200 and SB800 combination and I thought I had it pretty much nailed, but recently my shots have been terrible.  I&#8217;m taking some shots inside right next to a huge window so there is plenty of ambient light.  I&#8217;ve got the speedlight on the camera set to TTL.  Should I be exposing for the ambient light?  So with a 50mm lens should i be setting at least 1/60 and appropriate f-stop for the room light AND THEN the flash will do it&#8217;s job?  I ask because I&#8217;ve done some tests where I&#8217;ve underexposed the scene (through the viewfinder) and then the flash has cone the rest.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Matt</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Johnson</title>
		<link>http://neilvn.com/tangents/2005/06/30/notes-on-using-nikon-ttl-flash/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 06:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love your site!  Since I found it this evening I&#039;ve learned more about how to use my speed light than anything else I&#039;ve read and will keep coming back!

My question(s):  I use a D80 and F100 (especially for b&amp;w) and a when I&#039;m not using the monolights I use a SB600.  How does using a light modifier (Micro Apollo in this case) affect how the flash behaves either in TTL BL or TTL modes (i-TTL on the D80)?  I like the effect it creats in manual mode when there isn&#039;t a nice wall to bounce off of, but there are times I&#039;m using a flash fill in setting sun applications where I want the flash much softer, diffused.

Do I need to play with any settings on the flash for the F100 during portraits?  I already use manual mode for all flash indoor portraits and some tricky outdoor shots (bright sun and fill I leave in Aperature priority).  Should I leave the flash in manual mode and use my meter as I do with mononlights or does will the TTL mode of the flash just need some tweeking with the camera in manual mode?

These questions are probably elementary but for some reason manually adjusting external strobes seems easier than setting up the speed light.  As a side note, your site here gives more information than all of Nikon&#039;s instructions could ever hope to give on their own equipment, for that, thank you..

Jerry Johnson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love your site!  Since I found it this evening I&#8217;ve learned more about how to use my speed light than anything else I&#8217;ve read and will keep coming back!</p>
<p>My question(s):  I use a D80 and F100 (especially for b&amp;w) and a when I&#8217;m not using the monolights I use a SB600.  How does using a light modifier (Micro Apollo in this case) affect how the flash behaves either in TTL BL or TTL modes (i-TTL on the D80)?  I like the effect it creats in manual mode when there isn&#8217;t a nice wall to bounce off of, but there are times I&#8217;m using a flash fill in setting sun applications where I want the flash much softer, diffused.</p>
<p>Do I need to play with any settings on the flash for the F100 during portraits?  I already use manual mode for all flash indoor portraits and some tricky outdoor shots (bright sun and fill I leave in Aperature priority).  Should I leave the flash in manual mode and use my meter as I do with mononlights or does will the TTL mode of the flash just need some tweeking with the camera in manual mode?</p>
<p>These questions are probably elementary but for some reason manually adjusting external strobes seems easier than setting up the speed light.  As a side note, your site here gives more information than all of Nikon&#8217;s instructions could ever hope to give on their own equipment, for that, thank you..</p>
<p>Jerry Johnson</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 01:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Rui ... I&#039;ll gladly help where I can.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Rui &#8230; I&#8217;ll gladly help where I can.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: rui</title>
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		<dc:creator>rui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great and precious information.
I&#039;ll come back with some few questions if You don&#039;t mind.
All the best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great and precious information.<br />
I&#8217;ll come back with some few questions if You don&#8217;t mind.<br />
All the best</p>
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		<title>By: KristenI</title>
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		<dc:creator>KristenI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for this information.  I use a meter when I do portrait photography but I use the automatic mode during events.  I now understand how the TTL and TTl BL work.  I will be able to shoot much more confidently at events in the future.  I have the Nikon  D300 and the Nikon SB 800 Flash.

Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for this information.  I use a meter when I do portrait photography but I use the automatic mode during events.  I now understand how the TTL and TTl BL work.  I will be able to shoot much more confidently at events in the future.  I have the Nikon  D300 and the Nikon SB 800 Flash.</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Freddy Hurkmans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy Hurkmans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan,

That probably means that the lens you are using is not a D type lens, or that the D40x does not know how to communicate with it.
TTL flash needs distance information in order to work properly.

Hope this helps,
Freddy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan,</p>
<p>That probably means that the lens you are using is not a D type lens, or that the D40x does not know how to communicate with it.<br />
TTL flash needs distance information in order to work properly.</p>
<p>Hope this helps,<br />
Freddy</p>
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