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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://neilvn.com/tangents/2008/06/26/flash-and-tungsten-lighting/#comment-25899</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil, 

I know you said that the WB doesn&#039;t have to be dead on when gelling the flash but that it should be close.  I have a question though.  I can&#039;t seem to get nice skin tones.  Should I gel my flash for overcast days, early sunset, etc?  I want to get nice skin tones and they almost never come out like yours, I always seem to get hot spots and weird tones that make it worse.  My thought is that the skin tones look off because if I&#039;m shooting during an overcast day (6500k temp), I need to make my flash cooler to match, same for early sunset.  I gelled my flash for early sunset but I think the flash was too orange and it caused problems.  

I hope my question makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil, </p>
<p>I know you said that the WB doesn&#8217;t have to be dead on when gelling the flash but that it should be close.  I have a question though.  I can&#8217;t seem to get nice skin tones.  Should I gel my flash for overcast days, early sunset, etc?  I want to get nice skin tones and they almost never come out like yours, I always seem to get hot spots and weird tones that make it worse.  My thought is that the skin tones look off because if I&#8217;m shooting during an overcast day (6500k temp), I need to make my flash cooler to match, same for early sunset.  I gelled my flash for early sunset but I think the flash was too orange and it caused problems.  </p>
<p>I hope my question makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://neilvn.com/tangents/2008/06/26/flash-and-tungsten-lighting/#comment-10772</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 04:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GREAT POST!!  Gelling for Tungsten light is GENIUS!!  Totally going to do this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GREAT POST!!  Gelling for Tungsten light is GENIUS!!  Totally going to do this!</p>
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		<title>By: Neil vN</title>
		<link>http://neilvn.com/tangents/2008/06/26/flash-and-tungsten-lighting/#comment-5634</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil vN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Jeff .. the fluorescents are a problem.   So when I have to deal with fluorescents, I usually just overpower it with flash for the light on my subject.  This way I don&#039;t have to deal with color balance issues.

Neil vN&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Jeff .. the fluorescents are a problem.   So when I have to deal with fluorescents, I usually just overpower it with flash for the light on my subject.  This way I don&#8217;t have to deal with color balance issues.</p>
<p>Neil vN</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://neilvn.com/tangents/2008/06/26/flash-and-tungsten-lighting/#comment-5466</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil,

I&#039;ve been experimenting with CTS and 1/2 CTS gels, and I&#039;ve been having a hard time setting the right white balance in camera.  Of the default settings, the fluorescent setting actually gives the best results out of camera (I shoot with a D90).  But even those results look a little funny.  Like kind of cool/blue, but with a warmer, purple-ish tone.  CFL&#039;s seem to give me the hardest time, but the other bulbs in my home are regular &quot;daylight&quot; bulbs.  Am I missing something?  Thanks again for your time!

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been experimenting with CTS and 1/2 CTS gels, and I&#8217;ve been having a hard time setting the right white balance in camera.  Of the default settings, the fluorescent setting actually gives the best results out of camera (I shoot with a D90).  But even those results look a little funny.  Like kind of cool/blue, but with a warmer, purple-ish tone.  CFL&#8217;s seem to give me the hardest time, but the other bulbs in my home are regular &#8220;daylight&#8221; bulbs.  Am I missing something?  Thanks again for your time!</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://neilvn.com/tangents/2008/06/26/flash-and-tungsten-lighting/#comment-1429</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Max .. I found it easier to get a nice skin tone from the CTS and 1//2 CTS since the gel is less red than the CTO gels.  But that is more of an anecdotal difference than it would be a measurable quantity.

Neil vN&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Max .. I found it easier to get a nice skin tone from the CTS and 1//2 CTS since the gel is less red than the CTO gels.  But that is more of an anecdotal difference than it would be a measurable quantity.</p>
<p>Neil vN</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Max Surkov</title>
		<link>http://neilvn.com/tangents/2008/06/26/flash-and-tungsten-lighting/#comment-1428</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Surkov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil, great suggestion. I purchased an order of gels from Strobist and they contain CTO instead of CTS gels. How do they compare? Do you have a preferrence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil, great suggestion. I purchased an order of gels from Strobist and they contain CTO instead of CTS gels. How do they compare? Do you have a preferrence?</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://neilvn.com/tangents/2008/06/26/flash-and-tungsten-lighting/#comment-1427</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Jason, generally, if I want my flash to appear more or less neutral to the background light (Tungsten), then I use the full CTS.  If I want the background to retain some of the warmth, then I only partially correct my flash by using a 1/2 CTS filter.

I mostly use the 1/2 CTS though.  Especially because bouncing the 1/2 CTS gelled flash off a warm tinted wall will make the flash even warmer and bring it a bit closer even to the tungsten lighting.

Neil vN&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Jason, generally, if I want my flash to appear more or less neutral to the background light (Tungsten), then I use the full CTS.  If I want the background to retain some of the warmth, then I only partially correct my flash by using a 1/2 CTS filter.</p>
<p>I mostly use the 1/2 CTS though.  Especially because bouncing the 1/2 CTS gelled flash off a warm tinted wall will make the flash even warmer and bring it a bit closer even to the tungsten lighting.</p>
<p>Neil vN</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Jason smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks again Neil.

Do you have a &#039;rough and ready&#039; way to estimate whether you are going to use a 1/4, 1/2 or full CTO gel.  I have been guilty a few times in past of over-gelling which meant some work in LR later to get the skin tones back.  I suppose it&#039;s arguable what is worse, slightly orange skin or that terrible deathly blue tone that you get from too much flash in a tungsten environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again Neil.</p>
<p>Do you have a &#8216;rough and ready&#8217; way to estimate whether you are going to use a 1/4, 1/2 or full CTO gel.  I have been guilty a few times in past of over-gelling which meant some work in LR later to get the skin tones back.  I suppose it&#8217;s arguable what is worse, slightly orange skin or that terrible deathly blue tone that you get from too much flash in a tungsten environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil vN – tangents » photographing the wedding processional</title>
		<link>http://neilvn.com/tangents/2008/06/26/flash-and-tungsten-lighting/#comment-1425</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil vN – tangents » photographing the wedding processional</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I nearly always gel my flash for Tungsten, to make the flash not be as obvious.  This way I am adding tungsten light to the tungsten light and the flash therefore blends more easily with the prevailing light. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I nearly always gel my flash for Tungsten, to make the flash not be as obvious.  This way I am adding tungsten light to the tungsten light and the flash therefore blends more easily with the prevailing light. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Lister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Lister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referred to your site ia U Tube  A Better Bounce Card..am grateful for the link.Thanks for the no non sense information you share

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referred to your site ia U Tube  A Better Bounce Card..am grateful for the link.Thanks for the no non sense information you share</p>
<p>-Kudos</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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