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		<title>By: Libby</title>
		<link>http://neilvn.com/tangents/2009/09/19/workshop-view-jersey-city-nj-2/#comment-3972</link>
		<dc:creator>Libby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really great to see a &quot;how to&quot; shot.

Thanks  for a great blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really great to see a &#8220;how to&#8221; shot.</p>
<p>Thanks  for a great blog!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Westran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Westran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Neil,

I just shot my second wedding using various tidbits from your site.
(In particular, your &#039;black foamie thing&#039;, which in my case is actually just a more-or-less A5 square of black paper attached to my speedlight with a hairband...)

Thanks again for all of the excellent advice and tips you offer so freely.

Regards,
Andrew Westran
Durban, South Africa
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37871415@N00/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Neil,</p>
<p>I just shot my second wedding using various tidbits from your site.<br />
(In particular, your &#8216;black foamie thing&#8217;, which in my case is actually just a more-or-less A5 square of black paper attached to my speedlight with a hairband&#8230;)</p>
<p>Thanks again for all of the excellent advice and tips you offer so freely.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Andrew Westran<br />
Durban, South Africa<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/37871415@N00/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/37871415@N00/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://neilvn.com/tangents/2009/09/19/workshop-view-jersey-city-nj-2/#comment-3975</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;David, for that vertical image, I had to hold my camera with my right-hand under the camera.  I then bounced the flash slightly forward towards the model .. and therefore had to use the black foamie thing to block / gobo / flag my flash so that there is no direct flash.  I turned the black foamie thing around on the flash-head so that it blocked direct flash. It really is as simple as that.

I don&#039;t think it is possible to tell in advance what distance I can get out of bouncing my flash off surfaces like that .. but you might be surprised when you do try it out by how successful you are in situations where you thought you wouldn&#039;t be able to.  The key here though is to use a wide aperture, and as high an ISO as you are comfortable with.

Neil vN&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>David, for that vertical image, I had to hold my camera with my right-hand under the camera.  I then bounced the flash slightly forward towards the model .. and therefore had to use the black foamie thing to block / gobo / flag my flash so that there is no direct flash.  I turned the black foamie thing around on the flash-head so that it blocked direct flash. It really is as simple as that.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it is possible to tell in advance what distance I can get out of bouncing my flash off surfaces like that .. but you might be surprised when you do try it out by how successful you are in situations where you thought you wouldn&#8217;t be able to.  The key here though is to use a wide aperture, and as high an ISO as you are comfortable with.</p>
<p>Neil vN</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: David Purslow</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Purslow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 07:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Neil, can I ask a few questions please, and I dont know if your black foam thing is a ABBC or not but I have just got one so will if permitted talk in terms of a ABBC

Having just received my ABBC ultimate to replace my lightsphere I am loving the light it puts out, I can see the feathering in my pics, taking a little more time to think about taking pictures with it but not much....

My questions are these.

In the example above do you have the foam on the short side of the flash - I am guessing since its a port image you have it on the long side with the head at at about 35 degrees or so.

If I am correct in my assumption do you generally use your foam thing on the long side or short side of the flash ?

Again in the example above is the gobo side of the abbc on the camera left side of the flash

Would using the ABBC ultimate give you much (in this example) different light than the an all black ABBC and for bouncing flash, is an all black ABBC better than one with a small amount of white space ?

last but not least and guessing a hard one, what do you think is about the maximum distance you can get fairly usable bounced light from a surface like this.

thanks mate, sorry for all the questions

ciao

dp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Neil, can I ask a few questions please, and I dont know if your black foam thing is a ABBC or not but I have just got one so will if permitted talk in terms of a ABBC</p>
<p>Having just received my ABBC ultimate to replace my lightsphere I am loving the light it puts out, I can see the feathering in my pics, taking a little more time to think about taking pictures with it but not much&#8230;.</p>
<p>My questions are these.</p>
<p>In the example above do you have the foam on the short side of the flash &#8211; I am guessing since its a port image you have it on the long side with the head at at about 35 degrees or so.</p>
<p>If I am correct in my assumption do you generally use your foam thing on the long side or short side of the flash ?</p>
<p>Again in the example above is the gobo side of the abbc on the camera left side of the flash</p>
<p>Would using the ABBC ultimate give you much (in this example) different light than the an all black ABBC and for bouncing flash, is an all black ABBC better than one with a small amount of white space ?</p>
<p>last but not least and guessing a hard one, what do you think is about the maximum distance you can get fairly usable bounced light from a surface like this.</p>
<p>thanks mate, sorry for all the questions</p>
<p>ciao</p>
<p>dp</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Bob, it varies whether I take a test shot without flash first.  In this instance, I did meter for the background with my camera&#039;s built-in meter, and then took a test shot to confirm.

Neil vN&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Bob, it varies whether I take a test shot without flash first.  In this instance, I did meter for the background with my camera&#8217;s built-in meter, and then took a test shot to confirm.</p>
<p>Neil vN</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New to your site and you&#039;ve opened my eyes to a new technique.   OCF is a lot more flexible than I&#039;ve been led to believe.

When you take your shots, do you usually take a shot without a flash then turn it on and take another?  Or do you run with your flash on and adjust as needed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New to your site and you&#8217;ve opened my eyes to a new technique.   OCF is a lot more flexible than I&#8217;ve been led to believe.</p>
<p>When you take your shots, do you usually take a shot without a flash then turn it on and take another?  Or do you run with your flash on and adjust as needed?</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Frank, the choice between TTL and TTL-BL becomes less important in a situation like this when you realize that either mode would&#039;ve worked .. but might have needed different levels of flash exposure compensation.  (FEC)

A test shot will indicate if you need more or less FEC to get the TTL flash exposure correct. I did dial down my FEC by another 0.3ev compared to my usual default setting.

Neil vN&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Frank, the choice between TTL and TTL-BL becomes less important in a situation like this when you realize that either mode would&#8217;ve worked .. but might have needed different levels of flash exposure compensation.  (FEC)</p>
<p>A test shot will indicate if you need more or less FEC to get the TTL flash exposure correct. I did dial down my FEC by another 0.3ev compared to my usual default setting.</p>
<p>Neil vN</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: frank johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful color modulation from light blue of sky through the darker blue of the water to the purplish blue of the pavement and back to light sky blue in her jeans! Wonderful how the f/3.2 golden background blur of twilight-reflecting skyline glass blends with the medium cocoa butter of her skin!
   This appears to be fill flash. So why didn&#039;t you use TTL instead of TTLBL?  What difference, if any, would that have made? When you were setting for the ambient light, did you make any special adjustment for the cocoa-butter color of her skin and the black, but boldly white-lettered, shirt? Did you dial flash compensation up or down?
   I&#039;ve read and reread your excellent book. Now I repeatedly study its photos and their exposure data, trying to square that material with your stated general principles.
   Frank, who is trying hard to master his D3, SB-900, black-foam for flash, as well as his Nikkor 70-200 2.8, 85 1.4, 14-24 2.8, and 50 1.4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful color modulation from light blue of sky through the darker blue of the water to the purplish blue of the pavement and back to light sky blue in her jeans! Wonderful how the f/3.2 golden background blur of twilight-reflecting skyline glass blends with the medium cocoa butter of her skin!<br />
   This appears to be fill flash. So why didn&#8217;t you use TTL instead of TTLBL?  What difference, if any, would that have made? When you were setting for the ambient light, did you make any special adjustment for the cocoa-butter color of her skin and the black, but boldly white-lettered, shirt? Did you dial flash compensation up or down?<br />
   I&#8217;ve read and reread your excellent book. Now I repeatedly study its photos and their exposure data, trying to square that material with your stated general principles.<br />
   Frank, who is trying hard to master his D3, SB-900, black-foam for flash, as well as his Nikkor 70-200 2.8, 85 1.4, 14-24 2.8, and 50 1.4.</p>
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