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New PayPal 180 Return Policy
penndragonn2001
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Has anyone seen this? Starting this November, Once implemented, anyone buying anything using Paypal, will have up to 180 days to return anything purchased from any site. This in essence means I can go buy all top of the line equipment, go on a Safari, come home, and return all the gear saying it was having whatever kinds of issues, and get a full refund, with seller paying return shipping as well. If this is true, we're in for trouble...I won't ever sell anything of value using Paypal. Strictly Credit Cards, Cragslist local pick up, and Amazon. BUY AMAZON STOCK!! Once this becomes the standard, and word gets around, and I'm sure it will quickly, amazon sales figures will sky rocket., maybe then Paypal will reverse this horrible Policy.
Mmmm, let's see, let me go on the BAY and buy an almost new Nikon D4, a few Lenses, a few VERY expensive SB910's for an upcoming Wedding I have. Do the event, backup and process all the files, get paid, and then send all the euuipment back, a month at a time for up to 180 days. Wow, sounds like a good idea. I'll never have to buy new gear again! Or, anything for that matter. Future sellers beware!
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/upcoming-policies-full
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It may be good for buyers Ron, but as you said, for sellers, wow, huge ramifications for sure.
Okay Howie, I'll bite, what method do you use to sell gear? Direct....in person, Credit Card Transaction, Amazon, or Craigslist with local pick up only...?
They have have their respective advantages as well as disadvantages, but def alternatives.
This reminds me, though, I think the retail world has a service that tracks returns and can identify people who return a lot of stuff (probably thru emails or credit cards, etc.... maybe even PP accounts) and so I don't think these dishonest returners get away with it for long as they are banned from buying (or returning) after a while. Some sort of fraud prevention system...
I think that the one thing is many people won't even know about that return policy, I mean I would never have known if not for the initial post and therefore would not have tried to return something.
It's like PayPal is now forcing a 'warranty' of sorts upon the Retailers giving all the power to the consumers who, if they are serious would know their rights under those buying conditions and not having PayPal be the 'Police' on this.
You may be right Skip in most are honest, but believe you me there will be a hell of a lot of people who will pull this scam off if they are legally able to.
As sure as there are flies on a cowpat it will happen.
Skipper,
have you read any of my posts Skipper?
So because an item went bad after you bought and used it, it's okay to return to seller for a full refund? REALLY???
Your comments complain of abuse and intent to scam sellers. That's very different from scenarios in which I think buyers should be able to return stuff long after purchase. I was referring to retailers but the policy shouldn't be any different for consumer to consumer sales such as on eBay. If I sell someone a lens and he discovers there's a problem or it gives out in two months (if I represented it as in excellent shape) then I hope he sends it back to me. The fact that I have already spent the money is irrelevant. Why should he get stuck with it?
The difference between you and me Penn is you're imagining everyone's ready to commit fraud given the opportunity. I'm looking at this from the standpoint of legitimate reasons why something might be returned after the typical return period.
I don't see the return apocalypse you envision. The fact is if someone wants to buy a pricey camera, use it for a wedding or trip to Africa and return it, they can do that now under a 30-day return policy. So what's the difference? With 180 days they'll have longer to return something but I don't think the number of cheats will increase.