{"id":13374,"date":"2013-02-07T17:36:41","date_gmt":"2013-02-07T21:36:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/?p=13374"},"modified":"2020-06-13T18:55:03","modified_gmt":"2020-06-13T22:55:03","slug":"wedding-photography-positioning-flash-formals","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wedding-photography-positioning-flash-formals\/","title":{"rendered":"Wedding photography: Positioning your flash for the formals"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/weddings\/amy-clark\/Amy-Clark-1414.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"600\" \/><\/p>\n<h1>Wedding photography: Positioning the lighting for the groups &amp; formals<\/h1>\n<p>In setting up the lighting for wedding formals in the church, the question often crops up &#8211; <strong>where<\/strong> do you place the lights. <strong>How far<\/strong> from your subjects do you place the lights.<\/p>\n<p>The photograph above shows how and where I place the flash with the umbrella &#8211; about 3 pews in, just behind me or to my left (or right). This is approximate though. Two pews in would be fine. Of course, if you&#8217;re shooting the wedding formals elsewhere in a different location, just use the same idea.<\/p>\n<p>The closer you bring the light, the more you risk having the light come from too steep an angle, and giving you shadowed eyes.<\/p>\n<p>In positioning my light here, I can be slightly forward of my light &#8211; no chance of lens flare &#8211;\u00a0<strong>and<\/strong>\u00a0I have proper perspective for full-length photos. <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/composition-for-full-length-portraits\/\">You really do not want to shoot full-length portraits with a wide angle lens<\/a>. Step back, rather than zoom in!<\/p>\n<p>Placing the light relatively further back like shown here, does bring the light in at a fairly low angle &#8211; but it gives open, clean lighting.\u00a0This is how it looks:<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/weddings\/amy-clark\/Amy-Clark-1294.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"901\" \/><\/p>\n<p>camera settings:<br \/>\n1\/100 @ f\/5.6 @ 400 ISO<\/p>\n<p>Here I used two speedlights with the single 45&#8243; shoot-through umbrella, to give a wide swathe of light. Both speedlights were gelled with\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/rosco-cinegel-12-cts-3442\/\">1\/2 Straw CTS \u2013 20\u00d724&#8243;\u00a0gels<\/a>\u00a0(<em>affiliate<\/em>) to help <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wedding-photography-dealing-with-the-videographers-light\/\">compensate for the Incandescent lighting<\/a>. I used the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/rps-light-bar-four-flash-shoes-rs-3102\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">RPS Light Bar RS-3102<\/a>\u00a0(<em>affiliate<\/em>)\u00a0 to mount the speedlights together, as described in this article:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/mounting-multiple-flashes-speedlites\/\">mounting multiple flashes \/ speedlites<\/a>. Another alternative is the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/triple-flash-umbrella-mount\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Triple Flash\/Umbrella Mount<\/a>\u00a0(<i>affiliate<\/i>).<\/p>\n<p>The light is spread quite even &#8211; even enough for a small group.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/weddings\/amy-clark\/Amy-Clark-1393.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"601\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The lighting really is meant to be straight-forward. No cross-lighting. No weird shadows. In a large group, no one is half-hidden in someone else&#8217;s shadow. The light is meant to be quite flat. You risk few problems this way.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Photo gear used (or equivalents)<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Nikon D4<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-24-70mm-f2-8g\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Nikon 24-70mm f2.8G AF-S<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\/ \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/canon-24-70mm-f2-8-ii\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Canon 24-70mm f\/2.8L II<\/a><\/li>\n<li>(2x)\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-sb-910-speedlight\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Nikon SB-910 Speedlight<\/a>\u00a0 \/ \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/canon-600ex-rt-speedlite\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite<\/a><\/li>\n<li>(2x)\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-sd-9-battery-pack\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Nikon SD-9 battery pack<\/a>\u00a0 \/ \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/canon-cp-e4-battery-pack\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Canon CP-E4 battery pack<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/rps-light-bar-four-flash-shoes-rs-3102\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">RPS Light Bar with Four Accessory Shoes RS-3102<\/a>\u00a0to mount the speedlights<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/westcott-2005-45-inch-white-satin-umbrella\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Westcott 45&#8243; White Satin Umbrella<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/rosco-cinegel-12-cts-3442\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">1\/2 Straw CTS \u2013 20\u00d724&#8243;<\/a>\u00a0gels<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Gelling your flash<\/h2>\n<p>To have the cold (blue-ish) color from your speedlight better match the warm tones from the Incandescent light,\u00a0makes it easier to get good colors and white balance in your final images.<\/p>\n<p><div class='one_half'>\n\t\t\t\t\tYou can buy gels through these affiliate links:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/rosco-cinegel-12-cts-3442\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Rosco Cinegel 1\/2 CTS #3442<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/rosco-cinegel-full-cts-3441\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Rosco Cinegel full CTS #3441<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/rosco-cinegel-roscosun-12-cto\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Rosco Cinegel Roscosun 1\/2 CTO<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/rosco-cinegel-roscosun-full-cto\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Rosco Cinegel Roscosun full CTO<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div><div class='one_half last'>\n\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/rosco-cinegel-12-cts-3442\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/flash\/gel-3442.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div><div class='clear'><\/div><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Related articles<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/simple-lighting-setup-for-photographing-the-wedding-formals\/\">A\u00a0simple lighting setup for photographing the wedding formals<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/lighting-wedding-formals-1\/\">Using off-camera flash for clean predictable results<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/lighting-wedding-formals-3\/\">The benefits of using off-camera manual flash<\/a><\/li>\n<li>further articles on <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wedding-photography-tutorials\/\">Wedding Photography<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/oneperfectmoment.com\">NJ wedding photographer<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Amy &amp; Clark \u2013\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/oneperfectmoment.com\/wedding-photographer-staten-island-richmond-county-country-club\/\">wedding \u2013 Staten Island \/ Richmond County CC<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Wedding photography: Positioning the lighting for the groups &amp; formals In setting up the lighting for wedding formals in the church, the question often crops up &#8211; where do you place the lights. How far from your subjects do you place the lights. The photograph above shows how and where I place the flash with&nbsp;<a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wedding-photography-positioning-flash-formals\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Read more inside&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":29927,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[22,45],"tags":[459,280,460],"yst_prominent_words":[1835,10206,10193,10188,10185,10203,10208,10197,10191,10205,10202,2600,2599,10199,10207,10195,10190,1392,6304,1224],"class_list":{"0":"post-13374","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-lighting","8":"category-wedding-photography","9":"tag-wedding-photography-lighting-formals","10":"tag-wedding-photography-lighting-techniques","11":"tag-wedding-photography-off-camera-flash","12":"entry"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13374"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13374"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13374\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":48992,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13374\/revisions\/48992"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/29927"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13374"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13374"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13374"},{"taxonomy":"yst_prominent_words","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/yst_prominent_words?post=13374"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}