{"id":13651,"date":"2013-03-26T06:53:52","date_gmt":"2013-03-26T10:53:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/?p=13651"},"modified":"2017-10-22T17:36:05","modified_gmt":"2017-10-22T21:36:05","slug":"what-if-bounce-flash-isnt-strong-enough","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/what-if-bounce-flash-isnt-strong-enough\/","title":{"rendered":"What if bounce flash isn&#8217;t strong enough?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/bar-mitzvah\/Jenni-BM-1175.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"600\" \/><\/p>\n<h1>What if bounce flash isn&#8217;t strong enough?<\/h1>\n<p>Because I so often use <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/flash-photography-techniques\/bouncing-flash\/\"><strong>on-camera bounce flash<\/strong><\/a>, one of the questions I&#8217;m regularly asked is,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/what-if-there-is-nothing-to-bounce-flash-off\/\">what if there is nothing to bounce your flash off?<\/a>\u00a0There is also the variant &#8211; what if there isn&#8217;t enough light from the bounced flash?<\/p>\n<p>In both cases, the answer is the same &#8211; you improvise!<br \/>\nNot only that, but <strong>you need to be prepared to improvise<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>The photograph above is from a recent Bat Mitzvah, showing the big group shot of the kids. If you&#8217;ve photographed Bar \/ Bat Mitzvahs before, you know this is coming up, and you have to be prepared for it.<\/p>\n<p>You&#8217;re prepared for it by:<br \/>\n&#8211; having a ladder handy to stand on<br \/>\n&#8211; a wide enough lens and enough space to move back into<br \/>\n&#8211; enough light!<\/p>\n<p>You can not just be passive and go &#8230; oh, oops! You need to be prepared and have done some homework before any event you photograph. (It seems such an obvious thing to even need stating like that!)<\/p>\n<p>This particular venue has a really awkwardly shaped ceiling, and it has a bronze color in places. So it makes bounce flash photography a bit of a challenge, but I was able to get pretty good results by pushing the ISO higher. Using a camera like the Nikon D4 is an obvious boost here!<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/bar-mitzvah\/Jenni-BM-1990.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"599\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Camera settings &amp; photo gear (or equivalents) used for this image<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>1\/80 @ f\/4 @ 3200 ISO &#8230; on-camera bounce flash<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Nikon D4<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-24-70mm-f2-8g\/\" target=\"_blank\">Nikon 24-70mm f2.8G AF-S<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\/ \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/canon-24-70mm-f2-8-ii\/\" target=\"_blank\">Canon 24-70mm f\/2.8L II<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-sb-910-speedlight\/\" target=\"_blank\">Nikon SB-910 Speedlight<\/a>\u00a0 \/ \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/canon-600ex-rt-speedlite\/\" target=\"_blank\">Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-sd-9-battery-pack\/\" target=\"_blank\">Nikon SD-9 battery pack<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\/ \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/canon-cp-e4-battery-pack\/\" target=\"_blank\">Canon CP-E4 battery pack<\/a><\/li>\n<li>a BFT (<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/about\/black-foamie-thing\/\">black foamie thing<\/a>)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>But with a Bar Mitzvah, I also know that:<\/p>\n<p>1.) I will have to photograph family groups before the event. So I have a setup ready for that with off-camera flash. For this evening, I used a setup as described in this article:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wedding-photography-positioning-flash-formals\/\">positioning your flash for the formals<\/a>. However, photographing the groups in a smaller room here, I had the off-camera flash closer than described in that article. Obviously.<\/p>\n<p>2.) I will have to photograph the candle-lighting. (People at a static position from the camera &#8211; this makes manual flash more likely.)<\/p>\n<p>3.) I will have to photograph the big group of kids.<\/p>\n<p>For that, when the candle-lighting started, I had placed an off-camera speedlight on a tall light-stand behind me on the dance-floor somewhere, to blast some extra light. Depending on the venue, it is usually with the additional off-camera flash bounced into the ceiling &#8211; because I don&#8217;t want a large white shoot-through umbrella to block the guests&#8217; view. So for important parts of the event, I had an off-camera bounce flash ready to add more light, as needed.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/bar-mitzvah\/Jenni-BM-1183.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"599\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Camera settings &amp; photo gear (or equivalents) used for this image<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>1\/125 @ f\/4.5 @ 1600 ISO<\/li>\n<li>on-camera bounce flash, <strong>and<\/strong> an additional\u00a0off-camera bounce flash<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Nikon D4<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-24-70mm-f2-8g\/\" target=\"_blank\">Nikon 24-70mm f2.8G AF-S<\/a>\u00a0 \/ \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/canon-24-70mm-f2-8-ii\/\" target=\"_blank\">Canon 24-70mm f\/2.8L II<\/a><\/li>\n<li>(2x)\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-sb-910-speedlight\/\" target=\"_blank\">Nikon SB-910 Speedlight<\/a>\u00a0 \/ \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/canon-600ex-rt-speedlite\/\" target=\"_blank\">Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite<\/a><\/li>\n<li>(2x)\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-sd-9-battery-pack\/\" target=\"_blank\">Nikon SD-9 battery pack<\/a>\u00a0 \/ \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/canon-cp-e4-battery-pack\/\" target=\"_blank\">Canon CP-E4 battery pack<\/a><\/li>\n<li>a BFT (<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/about\/black-foamie-thing\/\">black foamie thing<\/a>) for on-camera bounce flash<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/manfrotto-1004bac-tall-light-stand\/\" target=\"_blank\">Manfrotto 1004BAC\u00a0 &#8211; tall light-stand<\/a>\u00a0for 2nd flash, as off-camera bounce\u00a0light<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>This also means that when the group shot arrives, I move back, grab the ladder, and climb up.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/bar-mitzvah\/Jenni-BM-1175.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"601\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Camera settings &amp; photo gear (or equivalents) used for this image<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>1\/125 @ f\/8 @ 1600 ISO<\/li>\n<li>on-camera bounce flash,\u00a0<strong>and<\/strong>\u00a0an additional\u00a0off-camera bounce flash<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Nikon D4<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-24-70mm-f2-8g\/\" target=\"_blank\">Nikon 24-70mm f2.8G AF-S<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\/ \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/canon-24-70mm-f2-8-ii\/\" target=\"_blank\">Canon 24-70mm f\/2.8L II<\/a><\/li>\n<li>(2x)\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-sb-910-speedlight\/\" target=\"_blank\">Nikon SB-910 Speedlight<\/a>\u00a0 \/ \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/canon-600ex-rt-speedlite\/\" target=\"_blank\">Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite<\/a><\/li>\n<li>(2x) <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-sd-9-battery-pack\/\" target=\"_blank\">Nikon SD-9 battery pack<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\/ \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/canon-cp-e4-battery-pack\/\" target=\"_blank\">Canon CP-E4 battery pack<\/a><\/li>\n<li>a BFT (<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/about\/black-foamie-thing\/\">black foamie thing<\/a>) for on-camera bounce flash<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/manfrotto-1004bac-tall-light-stand\/\" target=\"_blank\">Manfrotto 1004BAC\u00a0 &#8211; tall light-stand<\/a>\u00a0for 2nd flash, as off-camera bounce\u00a0light<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I had a wider lens, the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-14-24mm-f28g\" target=\"_blank\">Nikon 14-24mm f\/2.8G AF-S<\/a>\u00a0(<em>affiliate<\/em>),\u00a0on my other camera over my shoulder to switch to, if my workhorse 24-70 wasn&#8217;t wide enough. No frantic groping for another lens in the camera bag! I was prepared\u00a0for that, just in case.<\/p>\n<p>Back to the original question: what do I do if I don&#8217;t have enough light from my bounce flash? \u00a0Well, I do something else.<\/p>\n<p>When I get that question, I always have to wonder if the question is meant as a challenge: &#8220;weeeeell, bounce flash isn&#8217;t going to work all the time, you know!&#8221; &#8230; or whether people really <strong>do<\/strong> want to know. The answer seems so obvious?<\/p>\n<p>So there it is &#8211; I improvise. I adapt. It&#8217;s never just the one thing with lighting &#8211; on-camera bounce flash. That would be too limiting. As an event photographer,\u00a0I\u00a0would be negligent to arrive with just that, and then hope for the best. I <strong>always<\/strong> have more gear than would be necessary. Not just back-up gear, but faster lenses than my f\/2.8 zooms, and <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wedding-photography-big-bounce-flash\/\">more light than just a speedlight<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>You <strong>have<\/strong> to be ready, and you have to be able\u00a0to improvise and adapt.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Related links<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wedding-photography-big-bounce-flash\/\">Wedding photography \u2013 Big bounce flash<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wedding-photography-lighting-large-groups\/\">Wedding photography \u2013 lighting large groups with a large light<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/oneperfectmoment.com\/bar-bat-mitzvah-photographer-nj-nyc\/\" target=\"_blank\">NJ Bar\/Bat Mitzvah photographers<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What if bounce flash isn&#8217;t strong enough? Because I so often use on-camera bounce flash, one of the questions I&#8217;m regularly asked is,\u00a0what if there is nothing to bounce your flash off?\u00a0There is also the variant &#8211; what if there isn&#8217;t enough light from the bounced flash? 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