{"id":17590,"date":"2013-09-18T03:40:40","date_gmt":"2013-09-18T07:40:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/?p=17590"},"modified":"2017-08-11T21:23:53","modified_gmt":"2017-08-12T01:23:53","slug":"using-a-beauty-dish-light-modifier","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/using-a-beauty-dish-light-modifier\/","title":{"rendered":"Thoughts on using a beauty dish (light modifier)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/photo-session\/renee-david\/david\/NV2_4876.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"599\" \/><\/p>\n<h1>Thoughts on using a beauty dish as a single light source<\/h1>\n<p>A beauty dish is one of those light modifiers that sound attractive just by name already. And when photographers start exploring other options than direct off-camera flash and umbrellas or a softbox, a beauty dish is usually one of the first alternate light modifiers that catches attention. Mine too. Right after I bought my first Profoto kit, I purchased a beauty dish for it and started exploring\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/portrait-session-using-a-beauty-dish\/\">using a beauty dish<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>A beauty dish is ideally used at a closer distance for portraits, with the light &#8220;focused&#8221; on the face, creating a gradient where the light rapidly falls off between the lighter and darker areas &#8211; yet looks soft where the light is focused. But there&#8217;s more to it than that &#8211; a beauty dish is best used with a grid to help control the light. Or used with a sock, but then the beauty dish acts very much like a round softbox, and some of its specific qualities are lost.<\/p>\n<p>Quite a few of the softbox options for speedlights offer a way to create a beauty dish-like effect. An example is the <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/westcott-rapidbox-26-octa-softbox\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Westcott Rapidbox &#8211; 26&#8243; Octa Softbox<\/a>\u00a0(<em>affiliate<\/em>), as mentioned in the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/review-westcott-rapid-box-26-octa-softbox\/\">review: Westcott Rapid Box 26&#8243; Octa Softbox<\/a>. You can take the front diffuser off and add the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/westcott-deflector-plate-rapidbox\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Westcott 2030-DP Deflector Plate<\/a>\u00a0(<em>affiliate<\/em>), turning it into a beauty dish of sorts. But the same limitations appear.<\/p>\n<p>Looking at the portrait of David above, you&#8217;ll notice a semi-circular band of light to the left. This is because, even though the light from the beauty-dish-ified softbox focuses light on him, there is light that spills from the edge of the speedlight. The detail photo of the Westcott RapidBox will explain it better &#8230;<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/photo-session\/renee-david\/david\/_tangents\/NV1_7644.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"599\" \/><\/p>\n<p>This is how the light is spread with the deflector plate in the middle. The light is now bounced into the octa-box, giving nearly a beauty dish type of light.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/photo-session\/renee-david\/david\/_tangents\/NV1_7645.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"599\" \/><\/p>\n<p>However, when you move to the side, you&#8217;ll see there is direct light spilling from the speedlight. This is what caused that semi-circular band of light. Hard direct flash.<\/p>\n<p>This pull-back shot will show the circular spill light better. And there is also a comparison photo of the available light, with the aperture opened up to f\/4 instead of the f\/5.6 used in the final images with the softbox.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/photo-session\/renee-david\/david\/NV2_4848.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"599\" \/><\/p>\n<p>With the final images of David, I was able to use that spill light for effect, by controlling the composition.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Photo gear (or equivalents) used during this photo session<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-d4\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nikon D4<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-24-70mm-f2-8g\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nikon 24-70mm f2.8G AF-S<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\/ \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/canon-24-70mm-f2-8-ii\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Canon 24-70mm f\/2.8L II<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-sb-910-speedlight\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nikon SB-910 Speedlight<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\/ \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/canon-600ex-rt-speedlite\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/westcott-rapidbox-26-octa-softbox\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Westcott Rapidbox &#8211; 26&#8243; Octa Softbox<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/westcott-deflector-plate-rapidbox\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Westcott 2030-DP Deflector Plate<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/manfrotto-1052bac-medium-light-stand\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Manfrotto 1052BAC\u00a0&#8211; medium light-stand<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Related articles<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/review-westcott-rapid-box-26-octa-softbox\/\">review: Westcott Rapid Box \u2013 26&#8243; Octa Softbox<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/flash-photography-tutorial\/\">Flash photography tutorial<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/camera-and-flash-settings-what-do-you-want-to-achieve\/\">Camera &amp; flash settings: what do you want to achieve?<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Using a beauty dish in the studio as a single light source<\/h2>\n<p>While the above example was shot with a speedlight softbox that was adapted, let&#8217;s have a look at what a beauty dish does in the studio when used as a single light source.<\/p>\n<p>In this first example, it was just the Profoto beauty dish on <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/category\/models\/anelisa-durham\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Anelisa<\/a>, with no grid or sock on it. The pull-back shot shows the placement relative to her. The light on her face has the typical light of a beauty dish (for that distance) &#8230; but if \u00a0you look at her hands, you&#8217;ll notice a much harder light.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/models\/anelisa\/NV1_4390.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"901\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/models\/anelisa\/NV1_4391.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"901\" \/><\/p>\n<p>On the closer portrait here, you&#8217;ll notice how the light on her face is different than on her hands &#8230; which was the direct flash from the flash-head in the beauty dish.<\/p>\n<p>The next example shows the effect of the beauty dish with a sock over it. Now the light is much more even, and there is none of the direct flash spilling from the edge.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/models\/anelisa\/NV1_4312.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"901\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/models\/anelisa\/NV1_4313-edit.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"901\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Summary<\/h2>\n<p>To avoid this effect of the direct flash spilling from the edge, you need to shoot a tight portrait with the <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-beauty-dish\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Profoto beauty dish<\/a>\u00a0(<em>affiliate<\/em>)\u00a0&#8230; or use a\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/beauty-dish-sock-22\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">diffuser\u00a0sock<\/a>\u00a0(<em>affiliate<\/em>)\u00a0for the beauty dish; or use a grid, such as the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-honeycomb-grid-25-degrees\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">honeycomb grid (25 degrees)<\/a>\u00a0(<em>affiliate<\/em>).\u00a0The grid will contain that light, but still keep the essential look of the beauty dish.<\/p>\n<p>Then of course, a beauty dish makes a lot of sense used in a multiple-light setup in the studio, adding an accent to the light on your subject&#8217;s face. And we&#8217;ll come back to that in follow-up articles in the future.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Profoto beauty dish and accessories<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-beauty-dish\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Profoto beauty dish<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/beauty-dish-sock-22\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Diffuser\u00a0sock<\/a>\u00a0for the beauty dish<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-honeycomb-grid-25-degrees\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Profoto 25 degree\u00a0honeycomb grid<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Related articles<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/dramatic-studio-lighting-using-beauty-dish-single-light-source\/\">Using the beauty dish as a single light source<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/studio-photography-low-key-lighting-dramatic-portrait\/\">Low-key lighting for a dramatic portrait<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/portrait-session-using-a-beauty-dish\/\">Using a beauty dish<\/a>\u00a0 (Janine vN)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thoughts on using a beauty dish as a single light source A beauty dish is one of those light modifiers that sound attractive just by name already. And when photographers start exploring other options than direct off-camera flash and umbrellas or a softbox, a beauty dish is usually one of the first alternate light modifiers&nbsp;<a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/using-a-beauty-dish-light-modifier\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Read more inside&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":29878,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[4,13,833,110,136],"tags":[589],"yst_prominent_words":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-17590","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-beauty-dish","8":"category-equipment-review","9":"category-equipment-reviews-lighting-gear","10":"category-off-camera-flash","11":"category-studio-photography","12":"tag-how-to-use-a-beauty-dish","13":"entry"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17590"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=17590"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17590\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":40743,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17590\/revisions\/40743"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/29878"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=17590"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=17590"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=17590"},{"taxonomy":"yst_prominent_words","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/yst_prominent_words?post=17590"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}