{"id":20630,"date":"2014-05-30T04:49:36","date_gmt":"2014-05-30T08:49:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/?p=20630"},"modified":"2020-06-12T23:02:21","modified_gmt":"2020-06-13T03:02:21","slug":"camera-settings-photo-session-couple-bright-sunlight","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/camera-settings-photo-session-couple-bright-sunlight\/","title":{"rendered":"Camera settings: Photo session with a couple in bright sunlight"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/photo-session\/jessica-tony\/Jessica-Tony-e081-088.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"599\" \/><\/p>\n<h1>Camera &amp; flash settings: Photo session in bright sunlight<\/h1>\n<p>Analyzing other photographer&#8217;s work to figure out how they got the result, and figure out how to re-create it if you want, is a solid exercise. I do it often. It&#8217;s part of expanding your understanding of photography and lighting, and a way of expanding your technique and your repertoire.<\/p>\n<p>The challenge to figure out the camera settings and additional lighting for a sequence of photos from an engagement photo session\u00a0&#8211;\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/photo-session-with-couple-in-bright-sunlight-camera-flash-settings\/\">reverse engineering an image<\/a>\u00a0&#8211; had some interesting guess-work, and some good sleuthing.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s have a look at the images posted in the challenge, and then slowly step through the thought-process. Some of these are near-instinctive decisions, but some are done with a quick frown and an &#8220;ok, let&#8217;s do it this way then&#8221;:<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/photo-session\/jessica-tony\/Jessica-Tony-e051_1200.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/photo-session\/jessica-tony\/Jessica-Tony-e051.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"601\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n1\/1000 @ f\/3.2 @ 100 ISO \u00a0&#8230; \u00a070-200mm lens zoomed to 135mm<br \/>\nFull power manual flash, off-camera, bare.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/photo-session\/jessica-tony\/Jessica-Tony-e057_1200.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/photo-session\/jessica-tony\/Jessica-Tony-e057.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"599\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n1\/1000 @ f\/3.2 @ 100 ISO\u00a0\u00a0&#8230;\u00a0\u00a070-200mm lens zoomed to 120mm<br \/>\nFull power manual flash, off-camera, bare.<\/p>\n<p>I asked the couple, Jessica and Tony, to walk towards the camera with two passes. The three images shown in the original <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/photo-session-with-couple-in-bright-sunlight-camera-flash-settings\/\">challenge to figure out the camera &amp; flash settings<\/a>, were taken during the second pass. But I did run and change position to get longer shots again between images.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Always start with the ambient light<\/h2>\n<p>Here are two of <strong>the initial test shots<\/strong> to check my settings and exposure.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/photo-session\/jessica-tony\/Jessica-Tony-e029-041.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"599\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Both photos are available light only.<br \/>\nWhen you work with additional lighting on location, <strong>you invariably start with the ambient light<\/strong> as your base decision.<\/p>\n<p>left-hand photo: 1\/1000 @ f\/3.2 @ 400 ISO<br \/>\nright-hand photo: 1\/1000 @ f\/3.2 @ 100 ISO<\/p>\n<p>My starting point for exposing the shadow side correctly, (and ignoring the strong backlighting), was:<br \/>\n1\/250 @ f\/4 @ 100 ISO<br \/>\nThis is explained in the second part of this article: <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/photography-technique-taking-photos-in-bright-sunlight\/\">taking photos in hard sunlight<\/a>. Those are\u00a0very handy reference settings to keep in mind!<\/p>\n<p>The settings: 1\/1000 @ f3.2 @ 400 ISO is then 2\/3 stop away from that starting point.<br \/>\nf\/3.5 would&#8217;ve worked just as well, and that is quite close to the rule-of-thumb explained on that linked article.<\/p>\n<p>Three stops away from 1\/250 @ f\/4 @ 100 ISO, is<br \/>\n1\/250 @ f\/11 @ 100 ISO, which is very very close to the <strong>Sunny 16 Rule<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><div class='one_third'>\n\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nvn-book3-direction-quality-light\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/books\/NvN\/3-qualityoflight-250.jpg\" alt=\"Direction &amp; Quality Of Light\" width=\"250\" height=\"324\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div><div class='two_third last'>\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2>Direction &amp; Quality of Light<\/h2>\n<p>I wanted to distill the essence of what we, as photographers, work with &#8211; light! Before we can truly grasp on-camera flash and off-camera flash, and really, any kind of photography, we have to be aware of the direction and quality of light. We need to observe the light that we have, and then decide how best to use it, or enhance it.<\/p>\n<p>With this book, I try my best to share those \u201caha!\u201d moments with you, and I do believe this book can make a difference to your photography.<\/p>\n<p>The book is available on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nvn-book3-direction-quality-light\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>Amazon USA<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nvn-book3-direction-quality-light-uk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Amazon UK<\/a><\/strong>, or can be ordered through Barnes &amp; Nobles and other bookstores. The book\u00a0is also available on the Apple iBook Store, as well as Amazon Kindle.\n\t\t\t\t<\/div><div class='clear'><\/div><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Deciding on the flash settings<\/h2>\n<p>Now ideally I might&#8217;ve wanted to work at 1\/250 @ f\/11 @ 100 ISO for the photos to keep the sunlit areas from blowing out. But with flash, there are <strong>limitations<\/strong> that I had to keep in mind:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>At\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/maximum-flash-sync-speed\/\">max flash sync speed<\/a>\u00a0I have the most range from my flash. In other \u00a0words, I effectively have the most power from my flash.<\/li>\n<li>If I go into\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/high-speed-flash-sync\/\">high-speed flash sync<\/a>\u00a0range (by going over my\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/maximum-flash-sync-speed\/\">max flash sync speed<\/a>), then I drop at least one stop in range.<\/li>\n<li>So now I have to balance this decision &#8211; do I want f\/11 depth-of-field (DoF), or do I want to isolate my subjects with shallow depth-of-field?<\/li>\n<li>I decided to go with shallow DoF.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>In deciding to go with shallow DoF, I knew the range of my flash would be limited. As\u00a0you crank\u00a0the shutter speed higher past maximum flash sync, the flash starts to behave like a continuous light source in that shutter speed affects flash output. (Below\u00a0<a style=\"color: #2361a1;\" href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/maximum-flash-sync-speed\/\">max flash sync speed<\/a>, the shutter speed has no effect on flash output, and the <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/flash-photography-techniques\/dragging-the-shutter\/\">shutter speed becomes your independent control for ambient light<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>So looking at my test shots, I have:<br \/>\nleft-hand photo: 1\/1000 @ f\/3.2 @ 400 ISO<br \/>\nright-hand photo: 1\/1000 @ f\/3.2 @\u00a0100 ISO<\/p>\n<p>Ideally I might have wanted to drop the ambient even more for the right-hand photo, but I also knew the flash would need to be held too close to the couple to get the compositions I wanted.<\/p>\n<p>Even as it was, I had to crop some of the RAW images to remove part of the softbox or monopod. You can see it in the top left-hand corner from one of the earlier images when we did the first pass.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/photo-session\/jessica-tony\/Jessica-Tony-e038.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"601\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Adding off-camera flash to the available\u00a0light<\/h2>\n<p>One of the most valuable things to know about your speedlight (or most of them), is that it will show you the distance at which your flash will give you correct exposure.<br \/>\n&#8211; for TTL, it will be a range<br \/>\n&#8211; for manual, it will be a specific distance.<br \/>\nMake sure your flash is directly pointing forward, and the distance scale should appear (for most flashes).<\/p>\n<p>This tutorial\u00a0explains how to use that <strong>distance scale<\/strong>:<br \/>\n<a style=\"color: #2361a1;\" href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/getting-the-most-power-from-flash-speedlite\/\">getting the most power from your flash \/ speedlite \/ speedlight<\/a><\/p>\n<p>A related tutorial\u00a0explains <a style=\"color: #2361a1;\" href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/tutorial-how-to-use-the-guide-number-of-your-flash\/\">how to use the <strong>guide number<\/strong> of your flash<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>These two tutorials carefully explain how you would be able to\u00a0<strong>figure out your flash exposure<\/strong> close-enough-to-correct, without metering for it.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong>For example:\u00a0<\/strong><br \/>\nGuide Number = Aperture * Distance \u00a0(for 100 ISO)<\/p>\n<p>The Nikon SB-900 \/ 910 and Canon 580EX \/ 600EX have guide numbers close enough to 110 when the flash head is zoomed to 35mm. That&#8217;s also a handy thing to remember, because:<br \/>\n110 = f11 @ 10 feet.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Notice how neat that is &#8230; <strong>f\/11<\/strong> is also the aperture you&#8217;re going to use if you use flash, and go with the <strong>Sunny 16 Rule<\/strong>!<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">So if I need f\/11 worth of flash from a bare speedlight held off-camera, I make sure my assistant keeps it 10 feet from my subjects! Dead simple. And I then shoot at 1\/200 or 1\/250 @ f\/11 @ 100 ISO.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Because <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/manual-flash-ttl-flash\/\">distance is one of the controls for flash exposure with manual flash<\/a>, I had my assistant walk at the same speed as the couple, and hold the flash at the same distance from them all the time.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Back to my chosen settings: \u00a01\/1000 @ f\/3.2 @ 100 ISO<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>I want shallow DoF, but I will lose flash power.<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/using-neutral-density-nd-filter-control-dof-with-flash\/\">using a neutral density (ND) filter to control DoF with flash<\/a>\u00a0isn&#8217;t really an option here since the couple would be moving towards me. The camera would have too much of a battle with 3 stops lost, and the strong back-lighting. This means, I would have to go in to high-speed sync if I want that shallow DoF.<\/li>\n<li>The light is super bright outside, so I will have to go with a bare speedlight. A softbox would kill too much light. So that&#8217;s not an option. It will be bare flash.<\/li>\n<li>At the time, my\u00a0much loved\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/review-profoto-b1-flash\/\">Profoto B1<\/a>\u00a0didn&#8217;t offer high-speed flash sync\u00a0yet, or it would&#8217;ve been my choice to use here.<\/li>\n<li>Ideally I would want something in the order of 1\/2000 @ f3.2 to drop the ambient light in the background even more, but then the flash would be too close.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>With all that, the chosen settings are a <strong>compromise<\/strong> between flash range, and how much I am okay with the background blowing out.<\/p>\n<p>There are other real-world <strong>compromises<\/strong>. The harder flash does mean that the lighting pattern might not be entirely ideal. It&#8217;s not realistic to expect loop lighting or butterfly lighting on two people in every photo when they are walking and talking to each other. The way the flash was used here is the best-case way of having some control over the background exposure\u00a0and how my subjects are\u00a0light. For example in the image where she is twirling around in a dance move, the shadow of his hand isn&#8217;t ideal. But, the overall look and feel of the photo trumps that minor technical concern.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, this sequence needs to be seen as just part of the entire <a href=\"http:\/\/oneperfectmoment.com\/engagement-photo-session-in-new-york\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">photo session<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Choice of lens<\/h2>\n<p>I love using my 70-200 to compress perspective, and to isolate my subject. This is discussed in the tutorial on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/making-your-images-pop-through-lens-choice\/\">making your images pop through choice of lens<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I mention the focal length each image was shot at, as I zoomed in or out. Remember the couple was walking towards me, and I was also scurrying further away frequently.<\/p>\n<p>With the challenge, many guessed the focal length to be 35mm or 50mm. These lenses would not give this compression. It is important that you play with your lens, and walk towards and further from your (test) subjects, and build up a visual repertoire of what your lenses&#8217; field of view look like.<\/p>\n<p>Even 85mm wouldn&#8217;t give this tight a view. Also, prime lenses are for me more difficult to work with in a fluid scenario like this. I need to be able to zoom in and out.<\/p>\n<p>With all that in mind, and specifically the need to isolate through shallow DoF, and the compression a telephoto allows, AND the convenience of image stabilization of the lens, the 70-200mm f\/2.8 is the obvious flexible choice.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Summary<\/h2>\n<p>While it might seem arbitrary to ask for settings &#8211; I mean, how could you deduce camera settings!? &#8211; there is a <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/camera-and-flash-settings-what-do-you-want-to-achieve\/\">thought-process<\/a> behind all of this. With some of the steps, there is a very specific decision, and with others there&#8217;s leeway. But it all makes sense and there&#8217;s a repeatability to this.<\/p>\n<p>By having a method like this, there&#8217;s a solid base to start from, and your work will look consistent. Consistent during a shoot, and consistent from shoot to shoot, to help define a style.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Related articles<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/off-camera-flash-for-wedding-portraits-on-the-beach\/\">Off-camera flash for wedding portraits on the beach<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/camera-and-flash-settings-what-do-you-want-to-achieve\/\">Camera &amp; flash settings: What do you want to achieve?<\/a>\u00a0 (model: Ulorin Vex)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/using-high-speed-flash-sync-auto-fp\/\">Using high-speed flash sync \/ Auto FP<\/a>\u00a0 (model: Aleona)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/overpowering-sun-with-flash-what-are-my-camera-settings\/\">Overpowering the sun with off-camera flash &#8211;\u00a0what are my settings?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/flash-photography-tutorial\/\">Flash photography tutorial<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Jessica and Tony&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/oneperfectmoment.com\/engagement-photo-session-in-new-york\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">engagement photo session in New York<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Camera &amp; flash settings: Photo session in bright sunlight Analyzing other photographer&#8217;s work to figure out how they got the result, and figure out how to re-create it if you want, is a solid exercise. 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