{"id":33625,"date":"2016-01-10T21:33:22","date_gmt":"2016-01-11T01:33:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/?p=33625"},"modified":"2020-06-12T22:43:46","modified_gmt":"2020-06-13T02:43:46","slug":"bounce-flash-off-dark-ceiling","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/bounce-flash-off-dark-ceiling\/","title":{"rendered":"Bounce flash off a dark ceiling"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/flash\/bounce\/john-portraits\/JC-party_0216.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"601\" \/><\/p>\n<h1>Bounce\u00a0flash off a dark ceiling<\/h1>\n<p>A recurring topic on Tangents is how to bounce flash in pretty extreme situations.\u00a0With a\u00a0related article &#8211;\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/bounce-flash-outdoors-with-a-reflector\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">bounce flash outdoors with a reflector<\/a>\u00a0&#8211; I showed some images from an event at a New York restaurant.<\/p>\n<p>I intensely dislike direct, hard on-camera flash. Yet, this venue had all kinds of corners, and no place to effectively place off-camera flashes on light-stands.\u00a0The venue had an interesting ceiling. And with &#8220;interesting&#8221;, I mean tough. The ceiling was dark, with black panels at different angles. Here are\u00a0photos of the ceiling and walls, to give you an idea. Still, I wanted to see it it was possible to get great results, bouncing flash off a dark ceiling:<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/flash\/bounce\/john-portraits\/NV1_0558.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"450\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/flash\/bounce\/john-portraits\/IMG_6967.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"799\" \/><\/p>\n<p>So I tried on-camera bounce flash anyway, listening to my own advice to just\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/bounce-flash-photography\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">be bold!<\/a>\u00a0And it worked (for the most part). I had to push the ISO to 3200 ISO for most of the duration of the party, to have enough light return from that tough bounce surface.<\/p>\n<p>The key to having great light from on-camera bounce flash, is in this simple idea: bounce flash into the direction that you want the light to come from.<\/p>\n<p>Here are several images to show the results. For more, check out:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/oneperfectmoment.com\/party-event-photographer-robert-restaurant-nyc\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">John\u2019s birthday party<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/flash\/bounce\/john-portraits\/JC-party_0216.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"601\" \/><\/p>\n<p>John, as he stepped out of the elevator into the arms of friends and family waiting for him.<br \/>\nCamera settings: \u00a01\/50 @ f\/4 @ 3200 ISO<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/flash\/bounce\/john-portraits\/JC-party_0276-0285.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"664\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Camera settings for both images: \u00a01\/100 @ f\/3.2\u00a0@\u00a02500 ISO<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/flash\/bounce\/john-portraits\/JC-party_0476.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"599\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Guests listening to the toasts. Here I bounced off the wall and window to the my right, to get this type of directional light.<br \/>\nCamera settings: \u00a01\/60 @ f\/4.5\u00a0@\u00a02500 ISO<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/flash\/bounce\/john-portraits\/JC-details_0152.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"599\" \/><\/p>\n<p>For detail photos of the food for example,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/about\/black-foamie-thing\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the black foamie thing<\/a>\u00a0came in ever-handy. With this I was able to let the light skim in from the opposite direction than what I am shooting from. This article explains a similar example:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wedding-photography-detail-shots-bounce-flash-macro-lenses\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">wedding details &amp;\u00a0bounce flash<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Summary<\/h2>\n<p>Hopefully these few examples will help push the idea that when you&#8217;re stuck with what appears to be a tough location, to try it anyway. Raise your ISO and open your aperture a bit, and try it.<\/p>\n<p>Don&#8217;t under-expose though. To see what your flash is capable of, do test shots at full manual power. Then you will have a better idea of your struggle, rather than by guessing if your TTL bounce flash is giving you all the juice it can.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Part 1:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/bounce-flash-outdoors-with-a-reflector\/\">Bounce flash outdoors with a reflector<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Photo gear (or equivalents) used during this photo shoot<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>camera settings for main photo: 1\/50 \u00a0@ \u00a0f\/4.5 \u00a0@ 1600 ISO<\/li>\n<li>Nikon D4<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-24-70mm-f2-8e-vr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Nikon 24-70mm f\/2.8E\u00a0VR<\/a>\u00a0 \/equivalent \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/canon-24-70mm-f2-8-ii\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Canon 24-70mm f\/2.8L II<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-sb-910-speedlight\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Nikon SB-910 Speedlight<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\/equivalent \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/canon-600ex-rt-speedlite\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Related articles<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/bounce-flash-photography\/\">Bounce flash photography \u2013 be bold!<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wedding-reception-lighting-with-one-flash\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Wedding reception lighting with one flash<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/flash-photography-how-far-can-you-bounce-flash\/\">How far can you bounce your flash?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/photographing-wedding-processional-extreme-bounce-flash\/\">Photographing the wedding processional with extreme bounce flash<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/various-scenarios-balancing-flash-with-ambient-light\/\">Various scenarios: balancing flash with ambient light<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/about\/book-on-camera-flash\/\">book: On-Camera Flash (revised edition)<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Other articles on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/category\/bounce-flash-photography\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bounce Flash Photography<\/a><\/li>\n<li>John\u2019s birthday party \u2013\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/oneperfectmoment.com\/party-event-photographer-robert-restaurant-nyc\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Robert Restaurant, NYC<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bounce\u00a0flash off a dark ceiling A recurring topic on Tangents is how to bounce flash in pretty extreme situations.\u00a0With a\u00a0related article &#8211;\u00a0bounce flash outdoors with a reflector\u00a0&#8211; I showed some images from an event at a New York restaurant. I intensely dislike direct, hard on-camera flash. 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