{"id":45213,"date":"2018-05-21T23:22:02","date_gmt":"2018-05-22T03:22:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/?p=45213"},"modified":"2020-06-12T14:36:08","modified_gmt":"2020-06-12T18:36:08","slug":"bounce-flash-photography-and-dark-ceilings","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/bounce-flash-photography-and-dark-ceilings\/","title":{"rendered":"Bounce flash photography and dark ceilings"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/flash\/bounce\/dark-ceilings\/NVN_1583_sq.jpg\" width=\"900\" height=\"900\" \/><\/p>\n<h1>Bounce flash photography and dark ceilings<\/h1>\n<p>With the tutorials here on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/how-to-bounce-flash\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">how to bounce flash<\/a>, the questions inevitably come up &#8211; what if there is nothing to bounce your flash off? What if there are dark ceilings? Well, these limitations do affect how I use flash at events &#8211; but I still work according to a few set guidelines that give me the best results with bounce flash.<\/p>\n<p>I bounce my flash into the direction that I want to come from, regardless of whether there is a white wall or ceiling. It really is all about the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/about\/book-direction-quality-of-light\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Direction of Light<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I also shy away from using any of the on-camera plastic diffusers or flash modifiers. I rarely use any other light modifier than the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/about\/black-foamie-thing\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Black Foamie Thing<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>These are topics we have discussed before:<br \/>\n&#8211;\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/bounce-flash-off-dark-ceiling\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bounce flash off a dark ceiling<\/a><br \/>\n&#8211;\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wedding-reception-lighting-with-one-flash\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Wedding reception lighting with one flash<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Now, there are times when I have to resort to off-camera flash to help augment the on-camera flash, and sometimes when I have to rely on just the off-camera flashes to be able to capture the event. Difficult venues where on-camera bounce flash just isn&#8217;t plausible.<\/p>\n<p>This recent wedding took place in a venue with a wooden ceiling &#8211; but worse than that, there were wooden beams which really didn&#8217;t reflect much light &#8230; and still, my first approach is to see how on-camera bounce flash would work.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/flash\/bounce\/dark-ceilings\/NVN_1514.jpg\" width=\"900\" height=\"601\" \/><\/p>\n<p>You can see how the beams here would create deeper areas where the light just isn&#8217;t reflected when you bounce flash. In the background, and to the right, you can see that there were strips of white areas to the ceiling. This just complicated things.<\/p>\n<p>With times like these, I revert to manual bounce flash, rather than the customary way of using TTL bounce flash. The TTL exposure is too erratic in this scenario &#8211; I suspect that so little of the pre-flash is returned (that the camera uses to determine TTL flash exposure), that the camera just can&#8217;t give a proper TTL exposure. It was the case here with the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-a1-flash-nikon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Profoto A1 flash<\/a>\u00a0(<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-a1-flash-nikon-bh\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>B&amp;H<\/em><\/a>\u00a0\/ <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-a1-flash-nikon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Amazon<\/em><\/a>) that I was using.<\/p>\n<p>I ended up using full manual power on the flash to be able to get f\/3.2 &#8211; f\/3.5 @ 3200 ISO here when bouncing off the wooden part of the ceiling. When I moved to where the flash would bounce off the white part of the ceiling, the exposure would then completely blow out. There TTL flash would make it easier again.<\/p>\n<p>This is where the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-a1-flash-canon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Profoto A1 flash<\/a>\u00a0(<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-a1-flash-canon-bh\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">B&amp;H<\/a>\u00a0\/\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-a1-flash-canon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Amazon<\/em><\/a>) came in really handy. Not only does it have a bit more power than the regular top-end speedlights, what helped me was how easy it is to flip between manual flash and TTL flash. Just the slider switch on the side. No need to go into the menu to toggle the setting. Just slide the switch up or down to either TTL or manual flash, depending on where I was in the reception room.<\/p>\n<p>This did mean that I had to continually check where I was bouncing my flash &#8211; but this has become second nature, since I am always considering the direction my light has to come from.<\/p>\n<p>The Profoto A1 is also superb in allowing me to repeatedly fire full bursts of flash without the flash overheating.<\/p>\n<p>Here are a few more of the results:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/flash\/bounce\/dark-ceilings\/NVN_1505_5x4.jpg\" width=\"900\" height=\"720\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/flash\/bounce\/dark-ceilings\/NVN_1506_5x4.jpg\" width=\"900\" height=\"720\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/flash\/bounce\/dark-ceilings\/NVN_1509_5x4.jpg\" width=\"900\" height=\"720\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I did use the\u00a0\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/about\/black-foamie-thing\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Black Foamie Thing<\/a>\u00a0here as my on-camera flash modifier. Not so much because it would control the direction of my flash, but to not blitz people in the eyes with such a strong beam of light.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Photo gear used during this photo session<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>1\/100 \u00a0@ \u00a0f\/3.5 \u00a0@ \u00a03200 ISO<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"thirstylink\" title=\"Nikon D5\" href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-d5\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-linkid=\"36266\">Nikon D5<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nikon-24-70mm-f2-8e-vr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Nikon 24-70mm f\/2.8E\u00a0VR<\/a>\u00a0 \u00a0\/equivalent \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/canon-24-70mm-f2-8-ii\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Canon 24-70mm f\/2.8L II<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-a1-flash-nikon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Profoto A1 flash for Nikon<\/a> \u00a0(<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-a1-flash-nikon-bh\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>B&amp;H<\/em><\/a>\u00a0\/ <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-a1-flash-nikon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Amazon<\/em><\/a>); also available as<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-a1-flash-canon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Profoto A1 flash for Canon<\/a> \u00a0(<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-a1-flash-canon-bh\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">B&amp;H<\/a>\u00a0\/\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-a1-flash-canon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Amazon<\/em><\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>On-camera bounce flash in TTL mode.<br \/>\nWith the BFT which wasn&#8217;t absolutely necessary.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<div class=\"one_third\"><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nvn-book-on-camera-flash-2nd-ed\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/books\/NvN\/5-oncameraflash-ed2-250.jpg\" alt=\"On-Camera Flash Photography\" width=\"250\" height=\"357\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"two_third last\">\n<h2>On-Camera Flash Photography \u2013 revised edition<\/h2>\n<p>This book is explains a cohesive and thorough approach to getting the best from your on-camera speedlight.<\/p>\n<p>Particular care was taken to present it all with a logical flow that will help any photographer attain a better understanding of flash photography.<\/p>\n<p>You can either purchase a copy via\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nvn-book-on-camera-flash-2nd-ed\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>Amazon USA<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nvn-book-on-camera-flash-2nd-ed-uk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Amazon UK<\/a><\/strong>,\u00a0or can be ordered through Barnes &amp; Nobles and other bookstores. The book\u00a0is also available on the Apple iBook Store, as well as Amazon Kindle. Also check out the Amazon Kindle store.<\/p>\n<p>Learn more about\u00a0how\u00a0<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/book-on-camera-flash-photography\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the cover image<\/a><\/strong>\u00a0was shot.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"clear\"><\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"entry-content\">\n<h2>Summary<\/h2>\n<p>In a sense there is nothing new here about\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/flash-photography-techniques\/bouncing-flash\/\">bouncing your flash<\/a>\u00a0&#8211; rather it is an affirmation that keeping to specific ways of approaching lighting, gives a look that is consistent with the style of photography that clients see on my website. That becomes important &#8211; creating a look that clients can expect when I photograph their events. Also, bounce flash photograph is really easy &#8211; and give superb results if applied with some thought &#8230; even when it seems near-impossible.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"entry-content\">\n<h2>Related articles<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/how-to-bounce-flash\/\">How to bounce flash<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/tutorial-bounce-flash-photography\/\">Tutorial: Bounce flash photography<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/bounce-flash-photography-short-lighting\/\">Bounce flash photography \u2013 short lighting<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/bounce-flash-catchlights\/\">Bounce flash and catchlights<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/review-profoto-a1-flash\/\">review: Profoto A1 flash<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wedding-reception-lighting-with-one-flash\/\">Wedding reception lighting with one flash<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/on-camera-flash-light-modifiers-remove-the-plastic-diffuser\/\">Throw away the tupperware on your flash<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/review-best-light-modifiers-for-on-camera-flash\/\">review: Best light modifiers for on-camera flash<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bounce flash photography and dark ceilings With the tutorials here on\u00a0how to bounce flash, the questions inevitably come up &#8211; what if there is nothing to bounce your flash off? What if there are dark ceilings? Well, these limitations do affect how I use flash at events &#8211; but I still work according to a&nbsp;<a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/bounce-flash-photography-and-dark-ceilings\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Read more inside&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":45226,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[203,111,485,15,45],"tags":[48,610,881,61],"yst_prominent_words":[7251,10885,10884,10882,1021,1842,1850,10887,10886,2227,2192,1199,1851,7250,7249,10883,10881,10875,10876,10874],"class_list":{"0":"post-45213","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-black-foamie-thing","8":"category-bounce-flash-photography","9":"category-event-photography","10":"category-flash-photography","11":"category-wedding-photography","12":"tag-bounce-flash","13":"tag-bounce-flash-at-weddings","14":"tag-bounce-flash-photography","15":"tag-how-to-bounce-flash","16":"entry"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45213"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=45213"}],"version-history":[{"count":36,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45213\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":48874,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45213\/revisions\/48874"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/45226"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=45213"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=45213"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=45213"},{"taxonomy":"yst_prominent_words","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/yst_prominent_words?post=45213"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}