{"id":48579,"date":"2019-11-13T15:11:32","date_gmt":"2019-11-13T19:11:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/?p=48579"},"modified":"2020-06-07T20:21:19","modified_gmt":"2020-06-08T00:21:19","slug":"electronic-silent-shutter-of-the-sony-a9-vs-sony-a7iii-a7riii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/electronic-silent-shutter-of-the-sony-a9-vs-sony-a7iii-a7riii\/","title":{"rendered":"Electronic \/ silent shutter of the Sony A9 vs Sony A7iii + A7Riii"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/sony\/A9\/ny-marathon\/Sony-A9_19NYC__2601_4x5.jpg\" width=\"900\" height=\"720\" \/><\/p>\n<h1>Electronic \/ silent shutter of the Sony A9 \/ A9ii vs Sony A7iii \/ A7Riii<\/h1>\n<p>Both the Sony A7iii and Sony A9 \/ A9ii offer a silent \/ electronic shutter. Just like the Nikon Z6 and Z7 and Canon EOS R. But there are specific differences which might affect your decision about which camera best suits your needs.<\/p>\n<p>What sets the <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/sony-a9\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Sony A9<\/a>\u00a0(<em><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/sony-a9-bh\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">B&amp;H<\/a><\/em> \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/sony-a9\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Amazon<\/em><\/a>) apart from any of the other cameras mentioned, is that it is very resistant to banding in some artificial lighting. The sensor readout is (as far as I can figure out) 1\/160th of a second, while it is 1\/40th for the Sony A7iii \/ A7Riii \/ Nikon Z6 \/ Z7 \/ EOS R. This much faster sensor readout of the Sony A9 is why it is less prone to show banding in some artificial lighting.<\/p>\n<p>For this reason, I have two Sony A9 cameras because they are the perfect camera for shooting silently during church ceremonies, and corporate presentations. I can shoot silently, with little chance of there being banding.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/sony\/A7R-3\/banding\/Tonya_0550.jpg\" width=\"750\" height=\"1123\" \/><\/p>\n<p>This is an example I posted in the article on <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/mirrorless-cameras-silent-shutter-electronic-shutter-vs-mechanical-shutter\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Electronic shutter vs mechanical shutter<\/a>, where you can see how bad the banding can be with the Sony A7Riii.<\/p>\n<p>AS mentioned above, the sensor readout of the <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/sony-a9\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Sony A9<\/a>\u00a0(<em><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/sony-a9-bh\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">B&amp;H<\/a><\/em> \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/sony-a9\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Amazon<\/em><\/a>) is 1\/160th of a second, and is much faster compared to the slower readout of the Sony A7R III and Sony A7 III (1\/40th sec). This means the Sony A9 camera will be much less prone to this unfortunate side-effect.<\/p>\n<p>This photo with the banding, was taken at\u00a01\/200 @ f\/2 @ 3200 ISO. \u00a0I should mention that if I had kept to 1\/60th, there most likely would not have been banding. But then subject movement and camera shake become a problem. So it isn&#8217;t that ideal to force a slower shutter speed just to avoid banding when using the silent \/ electronic shutter. You avoid this with the Sony A9.<\/p>\n<p>This ugly banding shows up with artificial lighting where the brightness is controlled with Pulse Width Modulation. The LED lights in my living room also show this kind of banding.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/sony\/A9\/ny-marathon\/Sony-A9_19NYC__0325_4x5.jpg\" width=\"900\" height=\"720\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The 2nd \u00a0main reason why I really like the Sony A9 &#8211; it has <strong>no<\/strong> viewfinder blackout in the Silent Shutter mode. It can do 20 frames per second with no black-out! So the camera can keep tracking movement, and not lose &#8220;sight&#8221; of your subject.<br \/>\nThe Sony A7iii and other cameras have viewfinder blackout.<\/p>\n<p>So with a sport event like in the photos taken at the New York Marathon, the Sony A9 is ideal. Here I used the <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/sony-fe-135mm-f18-gm-lens\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Sony FE 135mm f\/1.8 GM lens<\/a>\u00a0(<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/sony-fe-135mm-f18-gm-lens-bh\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>B&amp;H<\/em><\/a> \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/sony-fe-135mm-f18-gm-lens\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Amazon<\/em><\/a>). As a runner would approach the table, I would lock onto them, and then fire a 1-2 second burst as they reached out for a sponge. And pretty much all the photos in the 20+ photo sequence would be razor sharp &#8230; at f\/2 at the speed they were running. Unreal!<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/sony\/A9\/ny-marathon\/Sony-A9_19NYC__3589_4x5.jpg\" width=\"900\" height=\"720\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/sony\/A9\/ny-marathon\/Sony-A9_19NYC__2068_4x5.jpg\" width=\"900\" height=\"720\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/sony\/A9\/ny-marathon\/Sony-A9_19NYC__1477_4x5.jpg\" width=\"900\" height=\"720\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/sony\/A7iii\/rolling-shutter\/A7T09747_4edit.jpg\" width=\"900\" height=\"601\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Also, with the A7iii keep in mind that it is much more prone to <strong>rolling shutter effect<\/strong> when using the electronic shutter. Even with these relatively static images &#8230; whenever I wasn&#8217;t careful, there would be this weird &#8220;bendy&#8221; thing happening. The Sony A9 is very resistant to this because of the much faster sensor readout.<\/p>\n<p>These images would have shown camera shake in any camera with a mechanical shutter. So admittedly, these images would have been lost anyway due to image softness, and this isn&#8217;t something that could entirely have been avoided with a mechanical shutter, or using the Sony A9. These images would have been unusable &#8230; but would have looked different. But I wanted to show these here as an illustration of the side-effect of moving the camera during exposure when using the electronic shutter. You get this kind of &#8220;skewing&#8221; of the image.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/sony\/A7iii\/rolling-shutter\/A7T09859_4edit.jpg\" width=\"900\" height=\"601\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I had no real reason to use the silent shutter here on the Sony A7iii, other than I am used to doing so on the Sony A9 because I like the viewfinder not blacking out on the Sony A9.<\/p>\n<p>With some images (not shown here), the effect is more subtle and you only realize there was rolling shutter when you switch to a more normal photo of the same subject. Faces become &#8220;fatter&#8221; or something gets stretched.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Summary<\/h2>\n<p>The Sony A9 and Sony A9ii offer specific advantages over the other mirrorless cameras, because:<br \/>\n&#8211; the Sony A9 is resistant to banding in some artificial light.<br \/>\n&#8211; shows no viewfinder blackout when you take the photo.<br \/>\n&#8211; the Sony A9 is more resistant to the rolling-shutter effect.<\/p>\n<p>As an aside, I don&#8217;t always keep my Sony A9 in electronic shutter mode, because you need the mechanical shutter when using flash.\u00a0(Flash is disabled with the electronic shutter.)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Related articles<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/advantages-of-mirrrorless-cameras-over-dslrs\/\">Advantages of Mirrrorless cameras over DSLRs<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/mirrorless-cameras-silent-shutter-electronic-shutter-vs-mechanical-shutter\/\">Silent Shutter \/ Electronic shutter vs mechanical shutter<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/review-sony-a7-iii-mirrorless-camera\/\">review: Sony A7 iii mirrorless camera<\/a><\/li>\n<li>More reviews of <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/category\/equipment-reviews-sony\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Sony<\/a> photo gear<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Electronic \/ silent shutter of the Sony A9 \/ A9ii vs Sony A7iii \/ A7Riii Both the Sony A7iii and Sony A9 \/ A9ii offer a silent \/ electronic shutter. Just like the Nikon Z6 and Z7 and Canon EOS R. 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