{"id":50227,"date":"2021-02-05T19:30:58","date_gmt":"2021-02-05T23:30:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/?p=50227"},"modified":"2022-04-20T18:00:59","modified_gmt":"2022-04-20T22:00:59","slug":"bounce-flash-photography-with-wooden-ceilings","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/bounce-flash-photography-with-wooden-ceilings\/","title":{"rendered":"Bounce flash photography with wooden ceilings"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/flash\/bounce\/katelyn\/bounce-flash-wedding-photography_1611.jpg\" alt=\"bounce flash wedding photography\" width=\"900\" height=\"1125\" \/><\/p>\n<h1>Bounce flash photography with wooden ceilings<\/h1>\n<p>When photographing wedding receptions, I would ideally like to get away with just one on-camera flash that I bounce off surfaces behind me. A venue with (close to) white ceilings and walls are just perfect. Super easy. Even with really high ceilings, I try to make it work. Here for example, I used a single <strong>bare<\/strong> on-camera flash to light up the entire place &#8212; <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wedding-reception-lighting-with-one-flash\/\">Wedding reception lighting with one flash<\/a>. No diffuser cup or white bounce card. Bare flash with the <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/about\/black-foamie-thing\/\">Black Foamie Thing<\/a>. But occasionally I reach the dead-end of a venue with black ceilings and walls. Then I have to resort to additional off-camera flashes, and use a diffuser cup or bounce card on my flash. Not my first choice for flattering light from my on-camera flash &#8230; but these are the limitations we hit occasionally. Another situation that is a real challenge, is when the venue has wooden ceilings &#8230; but I still try to see if I can get away with using an on-camera bounce flash. And often enough it works.<\/p>\n<p>The photo above is of the groom lifting his niece up into the air while they were dancing. Yes, I\u00a0bounced flash off that wooden ceiling to get that soft light o them. There was also an off-camera flash behind them to help create a bit of depth to the scene. The off-camera flash was gelled with a 1\/2 CTS gel to make it less blue compared to the main light. The on-camera bounce flash is very warm in color because of the wood. In post-processing the RAW file, the WB was around 2600 K, with the Magenta turned down a fair amount too.<\/p>\n<p>But that wooden ceiling does eat up a lot of light. We are operating near the limits of what we can easily get away with. I was mostly using\u00a0full power manual flash with a Profoto A1 @ f\/3.2 @ 3200 ISO. \u00a0Really squeaking in the proper flash exposure there. I am saying &#8220;mostly&#8221; because it definitely depended on which direction I bounced the flash in, and how close I was to one of those walls. Sometimes I had to turn the flash power down by 2 stops for correct exposure. It became easier to dial in the (approximate) correct flash exposure as I started to mentally map where I am standing on the dance floor, and how I was turning towards my subjects.<\/p>\n<p>Do check out this <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/tutorial-bounce-flash-photography\/\">Tutorial: Bounce flash photography<\/a><\/p>\n<p>My point is &#8211; while it is real trouble\u00a0bouncing off wooden walls in barns etc, it isn&#8217;t entirely impossible. I always give it a try first and see if I can make it work first, before going for more complex multi-flash lighting setups.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Camera settings &amp; photo gear used<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>1\/100 \u00a0@ \u00a0f\/3.2 \u00a0@ \u00a03200 ISO<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/sony-a9\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Sony A9<\/a>\u00a0 (<em><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/sony-a9-bh\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">B&amp;H<\/a><\/em> \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/sony-a9\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Amazon<\/em><\/a>)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/sony-fe-24-70mm-f28-gm\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Sony 24-70mm f\/2.8 GM<\/a> \u00a0(<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/sony-fe-24-70mm-f28-gm-bh\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>B&amp;H<\/em><\/a> \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/sony-fe-24-70mm-f28-gm\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Amazon<\/em><\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>on-camera flash: <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-a1x-flash-sony\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Profoto A1x flash for Sony<\/a> \u00a0(<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-a1x-flash-sony-bh\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>B&amp;H<\/em><\/a>\u00a0\/ <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-a1x-flash-sony\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Amazon<\/em><\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>background light: <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-a1-flash-nikon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Profoto A1x flash for Nikon<\/a> \u00a0(<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-a1-flash-nikon-bh\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>B&amp;H<\/em><\/a>\u00a0\/ <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/profoto-a1-flash-nikon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Amazon<\/em><\/a>)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/flash\/bounce\/katelyn\/bounce-flash-wedding-photography_1613.jpg\" alt=\"bounce flash wedding photography\" width=\"900\" height=\"1125\" \/><\/p>\n<p>That flash behind them really helps in avoiding a background that goes too murky. In this next photo of the band leader, you can see the flash on the nightstand. It was at a low power setting: 6 stops under full power.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/flash\/bounce\/katelyn\/bounce-flash-wedding-photography_1682.jpg\" alt=\"bounce flash wedding photography\" width=\"900\" height=\"601\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<div class=\"one_third\"><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nvn-book-on-camera-flash-2nd-ed\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/books\/NvN\/5-oncameraflash-ed2-250.jpg\" alt=\"On-Camera Flash Photography\" width=\"250\" height=\"357\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"two_third last\">\n<h2>On-Camera Flash Photography \u2013 revised edition<\/h2>\n<p>This book is explains a cohesive and thorough approach to getting the best from your on-camera speedlight.<\/p>\n<p>Particular care was taken to present it all with a logical flow that will help any photographer attain a better understanding of flash photography.<\/p>\n<p>You can either purchase a copy via\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nvn-book-on-camera-flash-2nd-ed\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>Amazon USA<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/nvn-book-on-camera-flash-2nd-ed-uk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Amazon UK<\/a><\/strong>,\u00a0or can be ordered through Barnes &amp; Nobles and other bookstores. The book\u00a0is also available on the Apple iBook Store, as well as Amazon Kindle. Also check out the Amazon Kindle store.<\/p>\n<p>Learn more about\u00a0how\u00a0<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/book-on-camera-flash-photography\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the cover image<\/a><\/strong>\u00a0was shot.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"clear\"><\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/flash\/bounce\/katelyn\/bounce-flash-wedding-photography_1074.jpg\" width=\"900\" height=\"601\" \/><\/p>\n<p>With the wedding ceremony, I used flash with the processional. No additional flash behind them. Just the on-camera bounce flash with the black foamie thing that helps control how the light spills. It also helps in avoiding blinding people behind me.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Materials for the flash modifier used \u2013 the black foamie thing<\/h2>\n<div class=\"one_third\"><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/bft-black-foam\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/flash\/bft\/bft_sq.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"275\" height=\"275\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"two_third last\">I use the black foamie thing (BFT) as a truly inexpensive flash modifier to flag my on-camera flash to give me lighting indoors that truly look nothing like on-camera flash.The <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/bft-black-foam\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>piece of foam<\/strong><\/a> (<em>Amazon<\/em>), can be ordered via this link. I cut the sheet into smaller pieces.<br clear=\"all\" \/><br clear=\"all\" \/>The BFT is held in position by two <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/recommends\/bft-black-hair-bands\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>hair bands<\/strong><\/a> (<em>Amazon<\/em>), and the BFT is usually placed on the <strong>under-side<\/strong> of the flash-head.<br clear=\"all\" \/><br clear=\"all\" \/>The linked articles will give clearer instruction, especially the <a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/video-using-the-black-foamie-thing\/\">video clip on using the black foamie thing<\/a>.<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Related articles<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/about\/black-foamie-thing\/\">Black Foamie Thing<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/tutorial-bounce-flash-photography\/\">Tutorial: Bounce flash photography<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/bounce-flash-photography-and-dark-ceilings\/\">Bounce flash photography and dark ceilings<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/event-photography-in-low-light\/\">Event photography in low light<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wedding-reception-lighting-with-one-flash\/\">Wedding reception lighting with one flash<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/what-if-there-is-nothing-to-bounce-flash-off\/\">What if there is nothing to bounce your flash off?<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"entry-content\">\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/neilvn\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/images\/banners\/instagram.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"120\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bounce flash photography with wooden ceilings When photographing wedding receptions, I would ideally like to get away with just one on-camera flash that I bounce off surfaces behind me. A venue with (close to) white ceilings and walls are just perfect. Super easy. Even with really high ceilings, I try to make it work. Here&nbsp;<a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/bounce-flash-photography-with-wooden-ceilings\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Read more inside&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":50232,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[111,511,45],"tags":[48,610,881,215,407],"yst_prominent_words":[10940,10166,10088,10086,1021,1845,1844,1842,1850,13520,10089,1199,12291,1851,1852,10875,5646,5643,10876,10874],"class_list":{"0":"post-50227","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-bounce-flash-photography","8":"category-profoto","9":"category-wedding-photography","10":"tag-bounce-flash","11":"tag-bounce-flash-at-weddings","12":"tag-bounce-flash-photography","13":"tag-bounce-flash-technique","14":"tag-on-camera-bounce-flash","15":"entry"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50227"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=50227"}],"version-history":[{"count":33,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50227\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":50262,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50227\/revisions\/50262"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/50232"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=50227"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=50227"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=50227"},{"taxonomy":"yst_prominent_words","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neilvn.com\/tangents\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/yst_prominent_words?post=50227"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}