
contest: comparison between different flash modifiers
(competition is now closed to new entries)
My friend Stephanie Zettl, that awesome wedding photographer in St Louis, MO, is currently busy writing a book on the Nikon flash system, to be released next year. She showed me some of the comparison images that she shot yesterday, where various light modifiers are tested against each other for their specific results. She photographed a model against a grey backdrop, which helps show how the light is dispersed across the frame.
Now, I have my preferred method of using on-camera flash , when I can get away with just using on-camera flash. By manipulating my flash’s light pattern with a simple piece of black foam, I can get surprisingly elegant results. But I know that many readers of this site are curious about the variety of light modifiers out there, and how they compare. So I thought it will make for a great article – comparing the different flash modifiers for speedlights.
Better yet, let’s make this a contest!
So, here are 10 images, shot in 10 different ways with a speedlight. There is a separate non-ordered list of the various modifiers and ways the flash was used. Match them up correctly – and be the lucky winner of either a Nikon SB-700 speedlight (B&H link) or a Canon 430EX II speedlite (B&H link). I know there is a slight discrepancy in the value between the two flashguns, but the 1st rule of this contest is – no whining is allowed. Second rule – I have the final say.
Post your results here as a comment. You’re more than welcome to discuss it too. Entries close at midnight (New York time) on Thursday, June 23, 2011. I’ll announce the winner sometime on Sunday, June 26 after I pick a winner at random from the correct entries, or from the closest-to-correct entries.
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For more details about the light modifiers, here they are in the same sequence,
with links to B&H where applicable:
1. Interfit 15.5″ beauty dish (B&H link)
2. Black Foamie Thing (Tangents article)
3. Fong Dong, (also sometimes referred to as the Fong Lightsphere) (B&H link)
4. Dome Diffuser – (in this case, supplied with Nikon SB-900)
5. Direct Flash
6. Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid (B&H link)
7. Lastolite 15″ Softbox (B&H link)
8. Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot (B&H link)
9. Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella (B&H link)
10. Rogue Flash Bender as a bounce card (B&H link)
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Any chance a link to the high res images :) ?
Comment by Anthony — June 17, 2011 @ 12:00 am
Comment by Neil vN — June 17, 2011 @ 12:01 am
My best guess. 3, 4, and 5 were the toughest but I went with the Fong on #3 since it has more of a bare bulb look, Flash Bender on #4 since the shadow is a bit softer, and dome diffuser on #5 since it looks more like overhead lighting and the shadow is harder. I could very well be wrong though! I shoot Nikon so if I win I’d love that SB-700. Thanks for the contest!
David
#1 – bare flash
#2 – beauty dish
#3 – Fong Lightsphere
#4 – Rogue Flash Bender as bounce card
#5 – Dome diffuser
#6 – Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
#7 – Lastolite 15? Softbox
#8 – Rogue Flash Bender as snoot
#9 – Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
#10 – black foamy thing
Comment by David Pinkerton — June 17, 2011 @ 12:02 am
Based on what I can interpret:
Method 1: Direct Flash – harsh shadow
Method 2: Beauty Dish – well defined face with falloff around the face, harsh shadow at the neck
Method 3: Dome diffuser – the following three was a bit hard. I picked tupperware flash as with harshest shadow
Method 4: Fong Lightsphere – This with softest shadow among the three
Method 5: Flashbender bounce – This is intermediate
Method 6: Umbrella – softest of all. almost no well defined shadow
Method 7: Softbox – soft shadows but smaller light source
Method 8: Strobies Grid – smallest and tighest grid shot
Method 9: Rogue Flashbender as snoot – a little spilloff around the snoot
Method 10: Black foamie thing – signature of Neil’s (hope I did not get this wrong!!)
Hope I got it right!
Comment by Chua AL — June 17, 2011 @ 12:13 am
image 1;
5. Direct Flash
image 2;
1. Interfit 15.5? beauty dish (B&H link)
image 3;
4. Dome Diffuser – (in this case, supplied with Nikon SB-900
image 4;
6. Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid (B&H link)
image 5;
10. Rogue Flash Bender as a bounce card (B&H link)
image 6;
3. Fong Dong, (also sometimes referred to as the Fong Lightsphere) (B&H link)
image 7;
7. Lastolite 15? Softbox (B&H link)
image 8;
8. Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot (B&H link)
image 9;
2. Black Foamie Thing (Tangents article)
image 10;
9. Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella (B&H link)
ill take the canon flash thanks lol :) good luck to you all people.
Comment by Anthony — June 17, 2011 @ 12:16 am
Fine! You guys asked for it! Please don’t laugh!
1. Bare Flash
2. Umbrella
3. Dome diffuser
4. 15 inch softbox
5. Gary Fong…
6. Flash Bender Bounce
7. Dish
8. Lightbender snoot
9. The NVN signature “foam thingy”
10.Honey Comb Interfit
Comment by Patti — June 17, 2011 @ 12:25 am
1 – Bare flash
2 – Beauty dish
3 – Fong Dong
4 – Rogue flash bender as bounce card
5 – Dome diffuser
6 – Westcott shoot through umbrella
7 – Softbox
8 – Rogue flash bender as snoot
9 – Strobies 20 degree grid
10 – Black foamy thing
Canon
Love the website
Thanks
Comment by Matthew Finnigan — June 17, 2011 @ 12:32 am
1 – direct flash
2 – beauty dish
3 – dome diffuser
4 – black foamy thing
5 – rogue flash Bender bounce card
6 – fong lightsphere
7 – lastolite softbox
8 – rogue flash bender snoot
9 – strobies grid
10 – shoot through umbrella
Comment by carlos garcia — June 17, 2011 @ 12:35 am
Fun! I’ll give it a go:
1. Direct Flash
2. Beauty Dish
3. Flash Bender as bounce
4. Umbrella
5. Dome Diffuser
6. Fong
7. Lastolite 15 Softbox
8. Strobies Grid
9. Flash Bender as Snoot
10.Black Foamie Thing
Comment by Melanie — June 17, 2011 @ 12:49 am
A bit hard without knowing what direction some of the tupperware is pointed. otoh just goes to show how much money the light bending quantum plastic material the fongster is worth.
1 direct
2 beauty dish
3 dome diffuser
4 lightsphere
5 bounce card
6 umbrella
7 softbox
8 grid
9 snoot
10 black foamy thing
good fun
we should have a contest using retail vs diy versions of some stuff :)
Comment by Val — June 17, 2011 @ 1:17 am
Is it possible to guess from Europe? :)
1 – Direct flash
2 – Softbox
3 – Fong Dong
4 – Dome Diffuser
5 – Rogue Flash Bender as a bounce card
6 – Shoot through umbrella
7- Black foamie thing
8 – Rogue flashbender as a snoot
9 – Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
10 – Beauty dish
Comment by Halefa — June 17, 2011 @ 1:34 am
1. direct flash
2. beauty dish
3. rogue as bounce card
4. fong lightsphere
5. dome
6. softbox
7. black foamie thing
8. rogue as snoot
9. grid
10. umbrella
Comment by sheri j — June 17, 2011 @ 1:38 am
1. Direct Flash
2. Interfit Beauty Dish
3. Rogue-Flashbender-Bounce
4. Fong-lightsphere
5. Dome Diffuser
6. White Umbrella
7. Lasolite-15-softbox
8. Rouge-Flashbender Snoot
9 Interfit-Strobies Grid
10. Black-foamie-thing
Comment by Fred G. — June 17, 2011 @ 1:41 am
1. Direct flash
2. Beauty Dish
3. Fong Lightsphere
4. Dome Diffuser
5. Rogue Flashbender
6. Umbrella
7. Softbox
8. Rogue Flashbender, Snoot
9. Interfit Strobies
10. Foamie Thing
Comment by Ted — June 17, 2011 @ 2:12 am
Hi Neil,
Here a contester from The Netherlands. I’m following your tangents for quite a while and find them quite educating. So now i’d like to see if i learned something from it. If not, it’s probably my own shortcoming ;-)
Here are my answers:
1 direct flash
2 intermit beauty dish
3 rogue flash bender bounce
4 fong lightsphere
5 dome diffuser
6 white umbrella
7 softbox
8 rogue flashbender
9 interfit strobies grid
10 black foamy thing
I hope i was paying attention during your lessons.
By the way, if through some miraculous intervention i should be voted winner of this contest, please note that my favourite weapons of choice in my never ending struggle to achieve striking photographs are those made by Canon. Wauw, probably my longest english sentence ever!
With kind regards,
H. Hendriks
Comment by H Hendriks — June 17, 2011 @ 3:34 am
Hello Neil,
here is my sequence correct …. and I’m sorry for having written so much for your italiano.Complimenti always fantastic site that I love ….. I think I know you always!
1. Diretta Flash
2. Interfit Beauty Dish
3. Rogue-Flashbender-Bounce
4. Fong-lightsphere
5. White Umbrella
6. Black-foamie-cosa
7. Cupola Diffusore
8. Interfit-Strobies Grid
9 Rouge-Flashbender Snoot
10. Lasolite-15-softbox
Edy Trigona Genova Italy
Comment by Edy — June 17, 2011 @ 3:59 am
1. Direct Flash
2. Black Foamie Thing
3. Rogue Flash Bender as a bounce card
4. Fong Dong
5. Dome Diffuser
6. Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
7. Lastolite 15? Softbox
8. Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot
9. Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
10. Interfit 15.5? beauty dish
Comment by Frederic — June 17, 2011 @ 4:51 am
Shucks, it’s 11:34 P.M. in Hawaii…guess it’s to late to guess :-(
Comment by Dianne Reynolds — June 17, 2011 @ 5:29 am
I’ll take a stab…
01. Direct Flash
02. Interfit Beauty Dish
03. Dome Diffuser
04. Fong Dong Lightsphere
05. Rogue Flash Bender as a bounce card
06. Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
07. Lastolite 15” softbox
08. Interfit Strobies 20 Degree Grid
09. Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot
10. Black Foamie Thingy
Comment by Mark Denman — June 17, 2011 @ 5:45 am
let’s add some fun :)
my take:
method 1: Direct flash
method 2: Interfit 15.5″ beauty dish
method 3: Gary Fong’s Lightsphere
method 4: Rogue Flash Bender as a bounce card
method 5: Dome diffuser
method 6: Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
method 7: Lastolite 15″ Softbox
method 8: Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot
method 9: Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
method 10: our beloved ultimate weapon, “The Black Foamie Thing” :)
cheers everyone :)
Comment by briand — June 17, 2011 @ 5:55 am
methinks :
#1 – bare strobe
#2 – beauty dish
#3 – fong lightsphere
#4 – flashbender bounce
#5 – dome diffuser
#6 – umbrella
#7 – softbox
#8 – flashbender snoot
#9 – grid
#10 – black foamie
thanks
jChris
Comment by Jean-Christophe — June 17, 2011 @ 6:30 am
How about…
1. Direct flash
2. 15 inch softbox
3. Dome diffuser
4. Fong Lightsphere
5. Rouge Flash Bender as a bounce card
6. Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
7. Interfit 15.5″ beauty dish
8. Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
9. Rogue Flash Bender as a snoot
10. Black Foamie Thing
Thanks for setting this competition Neil. Good fun for all!
Cheers.
Comment by Simon — June 17, 2011 @ 6:31 am
Let me leave this here:
1: Direct Flash
2: Interfit Beauty Dish
3: Gary Fong Lightsphere
4: Dome Diffuser
5: Rogue flashbender as snoot
6: Umbrella
7: Lastolite Ezybox
8: Interfit Strobies Grid
9: Rogue flashbender as snoot
10: Black Foam Thingie
Comment by Stephen — June 17, 2011 @ 8:48 am
Method 1: Direct
Method 2: Beauty Dish
Method 3: Dome Diffuser
Method 4: Gary Fong Dome
Method 5: Rouge Flashbender bounce
Method 6: White Umbrella
Method 7: Lastolite Softbox
Method 8: Interfit Strobies Grid
Method 9: Rogue flashbender as snoot
Method 10: Black Foam Thing
:)
Comment by Bobby — June 17, 2011 @ 9:38 am
Hi Neil ! Nice game ! ;-)
I will say :
#1 : bare flash
#2 : beauty dish
#3 : fong light sphere
#4 : flash bender (bounce card)
#5 : dome
#6 : umbrella
#7 : softbox
#8 : grid
#9 : snoot
#10 : black foamy thing …
a contester from France !
Comment by Michael — June 17, 2011 @ 9:41 am
method 1 = Direct Flash
method 2 = Black Foamie Thing
method 3 = Interfit 15.5? beauty dish
method 4 = Dome Diffuser
method 5 = Rogue Flash Bender as a bounce card
method 6 = Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
method 7 = Fong Dong
method 8 = Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
method 9 = Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot
method 10 = Lastolite 15? Softbox
Comment by Torben Andresen — June 17, 2011 @ 9:48 am
Awesome!!
#1 – Bare flash
#2 – Lastolite softbox
#3 – Dome diffuser
#4 – Rogue bounce
#5 – Fong lightsphere
#6 – Umbrella
#7 – Interfit beauty dish
#8 – Rogue snoot
#9 – Interfit gridspot
#10 – Black foamie thing
Comment by Kyle — June 17, 2011 @ 10:07 am
#1 – Direct flash
#2 – Interfit beauty dish
#3 – White umbrella
#4 – Fong lightsphere
#5 – Dome diffuser
#6 – Flash bender bounce
#7 – Lastolite softbox
#8 – Rogue snoot
#9 – Interfit gridspot
#10 – Black foamie thing
Comment by Gustavo — June 17, 2011 @ 10:20 am
Hello Neil,
Here is what I think.
1- Direct Flash
2- Lastolite 15″ softbox
3- Rogue Flashbender Bounce
4- Fong Lightsphere
5- Dome Diffuser
6- Black Foamie Thing
7- Interfit 15.5 Beauty Dish
8- Interfit Strobies Grid
9- Rogue Flashbender as Snoot
10- White Umbrella
Comment by Arnold — June 17, 2011 @ 10:35 am
1. Direct flash
2. Lastolite soft box
3. Gary Fong Lighsphere
4. Rouge Flash Bender Bounce
5. Dome diffuser
6. Black foamie thing
7. Beauty dish
8. Flashbender snoot
9. Interfit Grid
10. Umbrella
Comment by Ewen — June 17, 2011 @ 10:43 am
1-Direct light
2-Interfit 15,5″ Beauty Dish
3-Dome diffuser
4-Rogue Flashbender Bounce
5-Fong Lightsphere
6-White umbrella
7-Lasolite 16″ Softbox
8-Rogue Flshbender as snoot
9-Interfit Strobies grid
10-Black Foamie Thing
Comment by Motti Bembaron — June 17, 2011 @ 10:50 am
Hi Neil,
My guess is:
1. Direct
2. Beauty dish
3. Fong
4. Dome
5. Bounce
6. Umbrella
7. Softbox
8. Strobie Grid
9. Flash Bender as snoot
10. Black Foaming thing
Have a nice weekend!
Comment by Brian Li — June 17, 2011 @ 11:10 am
1: Direct Flash
2: Beauty Dish
3: Gary Fong Lightsphere
4: Dome Diffuser
5: Rogue flashbender as snoot
6: White Umbrella
7: Lastolite softbox
8: Interfit Strobies Grid
9: Rogue flashbender as snoot
10: Black Foam
Greetings from South Africa ! Groete uit Suid Afrika !
Comment by stefaan verlinde — June 17, 2011 @ 11:10 am
1 – direct flash
2 – 15.5″ beauty dish
3 – flashbender bounce
4 – lightsphere
5 – dome diffuser
6 – white umbrella
7 – 15″ softbox
8 – flashbender as snoot
9 – interfit gridspot
10 – black foamei thing
Comment by mrh13 — June 17, 2011 @ 11:59 am
Here’s my take:
1. Direct flash
2. Rogue flashbender
3. Fong Lightsphere
4. Beauty dish
5. Done diffuser
6. softbox
7. black foamie thing
8. interfit strobies grid
9. rogue flashbender as snoot
10. umbrella
Comment by Jeff Mason — June 17, 2011 @ 12:25 pm
Hi Neil,
Good contest! Here is my take on this:
1. Direct Flash
2. Interfit 15.5? beauty dish (B&H link)
3. Fong Dong, (also sometimes referred to as the Fong Lightsphere) (B&H link)
4. Rogue Flash Bender as a bounce card (B&H link)
5. Dome Diffuser – (in this case, supplied with Nikon SB-900)
6. Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella (B&H link)
7. Lastolite 15? Softbox (B&H link)
8. Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot (B&H link)
9. Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid (B&H link)
10. Black Foamie Thing (Tangents article)
I’m from Denmark in northern Europe. Hope that’s ok.
I Shoot Nikon.
Comment by Per Andersen — June 17, 2011 @ 1:44 pm
1- direct flash
2- beauty dish
3- softbox
4- dome diffuser
5- bounce card
6- black foamie thing
7- umbrella
8- snoot
9- grid
10- fong dong
Comment by ken hills — June 17, 2011 @ 1:49 pm
For fun …
1- Direct
2- Soft box
3- Fong
4- Dome diffuser
5- Rogue flashbender
6- Black foamie thing
7- Beauty dish
8- Snoot
9- Grid
10- Umbrella
Comment by Pierre G — June 17, 2011 @ 2:35 pm
Method Modifier
1 direct flash
2 beauty dish
3 rogue flashbender bounce
4 lightsphere
5 dome diffuser
6 shoot through
7 24″ softbox
8 snoot
9 honeycomb grid
10 black foam thing
Comment by Michael Ty — June 17, 2011 @ 2:37 pm
1 Direct flash
2 Beauty dish
3 Dome diffuser
4 Softbox
5 Rogue flashbender bounce
6 Umbrella
7 Black foamie thing– very directional
8 Rogue flashbender snoot
9 Interfit Srobies grid
10 Fong — no directionality at all.
Comment by Chip — June 17, 2011 @ 3:10 pm
Just curious what the light modifier is in the very first photo. (The one that leads off the post, below the date)
It doesn’t look like any of the modifiers shown for the contest?
brian
Comment by Brian — June 17, 2011 @ 3:15 pm
Hi Neil,
My guess is:
1. Direct Flash
2. Black Foamie Thing
3. Rogue Flash Bender as a bounce card
4. Fong Dong
5. Dome Diffuser
6. Lastolite 15? Softbox
7. Interfit 15.5? beauty dish
8. Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot
9. Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
10. Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
Greetings from Montréal.
Comment by binoyte — June 17, 2011 @ 3:26 pm
Hi, here are my guesses:
1) Direct Flash
2) Beauty Dish
3) Dome Diffuser
4) Fong Lightsphere
5) Rogue Flashbender Bounce
6) Umbrella
7) Softbox
8) Strobies Grid
9) Rogue Flashbender Snoot
10) Black Foamie Thing
Comment by Paul R — June 17, 2011 @ 4:13 pm
Method 1 = Direct Flash
Method 2 = Interfit 15.5″ beauty dish
Method 3 = Rogue Flash Bender as a bounce card
Method 4 = Fong Dong
Method 5 = Dome Diffuser
Method 6 = Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
Method 7 = Lastolite 15″ Softbox
Method 8 = Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot
Method 9 = Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
Method 10 = Black Foamie Thing
Comment by Bartosz — June 17, 2011 @ 4:24 pm
Alright, I’ll give it a stab…
1) Direct Flash
2) Softbox
3) Lightsphere
4) Dome Diffuser
5) Flashbender Bounce
6) Black Foamie Thing
7) Beauty Dish
8) Flashbender As Snoot
9) Strobies Grid
10) White Umbrella
Thanks for the contest!
Comment by Anthony Dupler — June 17, 2011 @ 4:34 pm
Wow! What a fun contest! Thanks for hosting!
Okay my guess…
1 = Direct Flash
2 = Interfit 15.5? beauty dish
3 = Fong Dong, (also sometimes referred to as the Fong Lightsphere)
4 = Rogue Flash Bender as a bounce card
5 = Dome Diffuser
6 = Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
7 = Lastolite 15? Softbox
8 = Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot
9 = Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
10 = and finally! Black Foamie Thing!
Thanks!
Comment by Wesley Chandler — June 17, 2011 @ 5:10 pm
Method 1: Direct Flash
Method 2: Lastolite 15? Softbox
Method 3: Gary Fong Lightsphere
Method 4: Dome Diffuser
Method 5: Rogue Flash Bender as a bounce card
Method 6: Black Foamie Thing
Method 7: Interfit 15.5″ beauty Dish
Method 8: Rogue Flash bender Snoot
Method 9: Interfit Strobies Grid
Method 10: Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
Comment by Arnold Gallardo — June 17, 2011 @ 5:31 pm
1bare flash
2softbox
3umbrella
4dome diffuser
5 gary fong
6black foami
7beuty dish
8flash bender snoot
9-intefit with grid
10 boucn card
Comment by Shawn — June 17, 2011 @ 5:41 pm
1- Direct Flash
2- Beauty Dish
3- Fong Lightsphere
4- Dome Diffuser
5- Bounce Rogue Flashbender
6- White Umbrella
7- Softbox lastolite
8- Grid Interfit
9- Snoot Rogue Flashbender
10- Black foamie thing
I have nikon… Please give me The Sb-700.
Comment by Eduardo B. — June 17, 2011 @ 7:59 pm
Just a guess…thanks
1- Direct Flash
2- Lastolite 15? softbox
3- Rogue Flashbender Bounce
4- Fong Lightsphere
5- Dome Diffuser
6- Black Foamie Thing
7- Interfit 15.5 Beauty Dish
8- Interfit Strobies Grid
9- Rogue Flashbender as Snoot
10- White Umbrella
Comment by Scott — June 17, 2011 @ 8:08 pm
1- Direct Flash
2- Softbox
3- Rogue Flashbender Bounce
4- Gary Fong Lightsphere
5- Dome Diffuser
6- Shoot Through Umbrella
7- Beauty Dish
8- Snoot
9- Grid
10- Black Foamie Thing
Comment by Alfredo Medina — June 17, 2011 @ 8:48 pm
1 – Direct Flash
2 – Black Foamie Thing
3 – Fong Dome
4 – Rogue Bounce
5 – Dome Diffuser
6- Beauty Dish
7 – Lastolite Softbox
8 – Rogue Snoot
9 – Interfit Strobies
10 – Shoot Thru Umbrella
Comment by Wes E — June 17, 2011 @ 9:00 pm
Hi, i am a guy from the middle east but i am interested with the lighting and the speedlite
This answer from my experience
01. Direct Flash (harsh Light)
02. Interfit Beauty Dish (well defined harsh light and it is the main example you solved form the begin :)) )
03. Fong Lightsphere (Soft Defined Shadows)
04. Flashbender bounce (Less Light and intermediate shadows due to the light source size)
05. Dome Diffuser (Hard shadows – less light than the direct one)
06. Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella (wide are covered by soft light due to the modifier size)
07. Lastolite 15” softbox (soft light in a specified area)
08. Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot (Spot defined light)
09. Interfit Strobies 20 Degree Grid (little spilloff more than the snoot)
10. Black Foamie Thingy
Comment by Khaled Noor — June 17, 2011 @ 9:39 pm
Here’s my analysis:
Image 1 – Direct flash
Image 2 – Interfit Beauty Dish
Image 3 – Rogue Flash Bender Bounce Card
Image 4 – Fong Lightsphere
Image 5 – Dome Diffuser
Image 6 – Black Foamie Thing
Image 7 – Lastolite 15″ Softbox
Image 8 – Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
Image 9 – Rogue Flash bender Snoot
Image 10 – Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
Comment by Nuby DeLeon — June 17, 2011 @ 10:16 pm
Hi Neil, can I give some sugestion?
Wouldn’t be more fare if instead of picking up the winners at random you pick those that post the correct answer before? Because I beliave that people that post later had more oportunity to compare the answers.
Thanks!
Comment by Eduardo B — June 17, 2011 @ 10:26 pm
Comment by Neil vN — June 17, 2011 @ 10:31 pm
1- Direct Flash
2- Dome Diffuser
3- Lastolite
4- Gary Fong
5- Beauty Dish
6- Rogue Flashbender Bounced
7- Black Fomie Thing
8- Rogue Snoot
9- Interfit Grid
10- White Umbrella
Comment by Nathan Supan — June 17, 2011 @ 10:49 pm
1 bare flash
2 beauty dish
3 rogue flashbender
4 lightsphere
5 dome diffuser
6 shoot through
7 softbox
8 snoot
9 honeycomb grid
10 black foam thing
Comment by Craig Bregar — June 17, 2011 @ 10:54 pm
hahaha, All right Neil, It was just an idea!
hugs.
Comment by Eduardo B. — June 17, 2011 @ 11:22 pm
1. Direct Flash
2. Beauty dish
3. Fong Dong
4. Rogue flash bender as bounce
5. Dome Diffuser
6. Wescott shoot thru umbrella
7. softbox
8. interfit strobies grid
9. rogue flash bender as snoot
10. black foamie thing
Comment by Adi Surtihadi — June 18, 2011 @ 1:52 am
1. Direct flash
2. Interfit 15.5” beauty dish
3. Diffusion dome
4. Gary Fong Light Sphere
5. Rogue flashbender bounce
6. Umbrella
7. Lastolite 15” softbox
8. Interfit strobies grid
9. Rogue flashbender as snoot
Comment by Tim New — June 18, 2011 @ 4:01 am
my thoughts
NO.1 = Direct flash
NO.2 = Beauty dish
NO.3 = Softbox
NO.4 = Dome diffuser
NO.5 = Bounce card
NO.6 = Black foamie thing
NO.7 = Fong
NO.8 = Snoot
NO.9 = Grid
NO.10= Umbrella
Comment by Sašo — June 18, 2011 @ 5:29 am
I’ll have a go.
1 = Direct
2= BEauty Dish
3 = Flash Bender
4 = Fong
5 = Diffuser Dome
6 = Umbrella
7 = Soft Box
8 = Snoot
9 = Grid
10 = Black Foamie
Comment by Jeremy — June 18, 2011 @ 6:59 am
Method 1: Direct Flash
Method 2: Interfit 15.5? beauty Dish
Method 3: Gary Fong Lightsphere
Method 4: Rogue Flash Bender
Method 5: Dome Diffuser
Method 6: Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
Method 7: Lastolite 15? Softbox
Method 8: Rogue Flash bender Snoot
Method 9: Interfit Strobies Grid
Method 10: Black Foamie Thing
Comment by TAFFY JOHNSON — June 18, 2011 @ 10:29 am
1.) Direct Flash
2.) Beauty Dish
3.) Rogue Flash Bender
4.) Fong Dong
5.) Dome Diffuser
6.) Umbrella
7.) Black Foamie Thing
8.) Snoot
9.) Grid Spot
10.) Softbox
Comment by Dustin Carbetta — June 18, 2011 @ 11:41 am
I’m in!
1. Direct flash
2. Beauty dish
3. Dome diffuser
4. Flash bender
5. Gary Fong
6. Brolley
7. Soft box
8. Strobies Grid
9. Snoot
10. The black foamie thing of greatness?
Comment by Simon Woods — June 18, 2011 @ 11:51 am
Thanks for putting up this amusing puzzle. Here’s my take on this series:
1. direct
2. dish
3. dome diffuser
4. Rogue bender
5. Fong lightsphere
6. umbrella
7. softbox
8. grid
9. snoot
10. black foamie thing
Comment by Doug Ford — June 18, 2011 @ 12:46 pm
M1 : direct flash
M2 : interfit beauty dish
M3 : fong lightsphere
M4 : flash bender bounce card
M5 : dome diffuser
M6 : white umbrella
M7 : lastolite 15″ softbox
M8 : interfit strobist grid
M9 : flash bender as a snoot
M10: BFT
Comment by Reynold — June 18, 2011 @ 1:07 pm
1. Direct flash.
2. Beauty dish.
3. Dome diffuser.
4. Fong lightsphere.
5. Rogue as bounce card.
6. Umbrella.
7. Soft box.
8. Grid.
9. Rogue as snoot.
10. Black Foamie Thing.
Comment by Ralph Mills — June 18, 2011 @ 2:07 pm
1 direct flash
2 beauty dish
3 dome
4 rogue flashbender bouncecard
5 lightsphere mister fong
6 umbrella
7 softbox
8 rogue flashbender snoot
9 grid
10 and 10 points go to… The Black Foamie Thing
greetings from the Netherlands
Comment by Alwin — June 18, 2011 @ 6:55 pm
Im an amature photographer and have never used any of the above modifiers. (other than bounce cards). just trying to guess my best :)
1. Direct flash.
2. Beauty Dish
3. Rouge flashbender bounce
4. Black fomie thing
5. Dome diffuser
6. Fong Lightsphere
7. Umbrella
8. Rouge Flashbender snoot
9. Interfit Strobies Grid
10. Soft box
Comment by Pulasthi — June 19, 2011 @ 12:30 am
M1: Direct Flash
M2: Fong Dong, (also sometimes referred to as the Fong Lightsphere)
M3: Interfit 15.5? beauty dish
M4: Dome Diffuser
M5: Lastolite 15? Softbox
M6: Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
M7: Rogue Flash Bender as a bounce card
M8: Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot
M9: Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
M10: Black Foamie Thing
Comment by Publius — June 19, 2011 @ 3:56 am
My Try!
M1: direct flash
M2: lastolite 15″ softbox
M3: fong lightsphere
M4: dome diffuser
M5: rogue flashbender bounce
M6: white umbrella
M7: interfit 15.5″ beauty dish
M8: rogue flashbender as snoot
M9: interfit strobies grid
M10: black foamie thing
Comment by Angelo Chiu — June 19, 2011 @ 6:03 am
Image 1: Method 5 Direct
Image 2: Method 1 Beauty
Image 3: Method 4 Dome
Image 4: Method 3 Fong
Image 5: Method 10 Rogue as bounce
Image 6: Method 9 Shoot-through
Image 7: Method 7: Softbox
Image 8: Method 6 Strobies grid
Image 9: Method 8 Rogue as snoot
Image 10: Method 2 Foamy
Comment by Duane Dale — June 19, 2011 @ 6:10 am
1- direct flash
2- beauty dish
3- softbox
4- dome diffuser
5- bounce card
6- umbrella
7- black foamie thing
8- grid
9- snoot
10- gary fong
Comment by Anthony Rudick — June 19, 2011 @ 11:58 am
1 Bare Flash
2 Beauty Dish
3 Gary Fong Lightsphere
4 Rogue Flashbender
5 Dome diffuser
6 Umbrella
7 Softbox
8 Gridspot
9 Snoot
10 Black Foamie Thing
thanks.
Comment by Barry Cheng — June 19, 2011 @ 1:23 pm
Long time reader of the blog and first time round posting but hey lets have a go
Image 1 Direct Flash (Very harsh Shadow behind)
Image 2 Beauty Dish (would have to have been close for little amount of light hitting background)
Image 3 Dome Diffiuser (little bit of direct flash but lot of light bounced on the background)
Image 4 Rogue Flashbender Bounce (see the shadow on the background from more direct light)
Image 5 Fong Lightsphere (Little bit more shadow from more surface area on the fong than dome Diffuser)
Image 6 Shoot through umbrella (very soft light with soft shadow)
Image 7 Lastolite 15″ softbox (soft light with harsher shadow than umbrella)
Image 8 Rogue flashbender as snoot (very fast fall off of light)
Image 9 Interfit Grid (slower fall off of light that snoot)
Image 10 Neil VN’s Black foamie thing (No shadow behind subject so no direct flash)
Nikon user and the flash would be very nice addition to the camera bag.
Comment by Grant Brooks — June 19, 2011 @ 2:12 pm
Hallo Neil,
You make really beautiful site.
Nice contest today, let me guess:
#1 – Bare flash
#2 – Beauty dish
#3 – Dome diffuser
#4 – Rogue Flash Bender as bounce card
#5 – Fong Dong Lightsphere
#6 – Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
#7 – 15” Softbox
#8 – Rogue Flash Bender as snoot
#9 – Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
#10 – Black foamy thing
Good luck
Eduard
Comment by Eduard — June 19, 2011 @ 3:37 pm
1. Direct Flash
2. Interfit Beauty Dish
3. Dome Diffuser
4. Rogue Flashbender Bounce
5. Fong Lightsphere
6. White Umbrella
7. Lastolite 15″ Softbox
8. Strobies Grid
9. Flashbender as Snoot
10. Black Foamie thing
:D
Comment by Nathan Smith — June 19, 2011 @ 5:12 pm
M1 – Direct Flash
M2 – Beauty Dish
M3 – Dome Diffuser
M4 – Fong Lightsphere
M5 – Rogue flashbender bounce
M6 – White Umbrella
M7 – Softbox
M8 – Strobist Grid
M9 – Rogue Falshbender as snoot
M10 – Black foamie thing
Hope I can participate from Chile. I love the site and the black foamie thing tought a LOT about how light behaves. Thanks Neil.
Comment by Guillermo — June 19, 2011 @ 7:46 pm
1. direct flash
2. softbox
3. fong
4. dome diffuser
5. Rogue card
6. umbrella
7. beauty dish
8. Rogue snoot
9. Interfit grid
10. Planet Neil black foamy thingy
Comment by Jerry — June 19, 2011 @ 7:58 pm
1. Bare Flash
2. Beauty Dish
3. Flashbender Bounce
4. Lightsphere
5. Dome Diffuser
6. Umbrella
7. Softbox
8. Grid
9. Snoot
10. Black Foamy Thing
Comment by Wacky B — June 19, 2011 @ 11:38 pm
Good Contest Neil!
You really come out with these brain teasers.
1.Direct flash
2.Interfit Beauty Dish
3.Gary Fong Diffuser
4.Rogue Flash benders
5.Dome Diffuser
6.Umbrella
7.Lastolite Soft Box
8.Snoot
9.Grid
10.Black Foamy thing
and the winner is…
Comment by Indranil Choudhury — June 20, 2011 @ 1:54 am
M1 – Direct Flash.
M2 – Lastolite 15″ softbox.
M3 – Fong Dong.
M4 – Rogue Flashbender Bounce.
M5 – Dome diffuser.
M6 – White Umbrella.
M7 – Interfit 15.5″ beauty dish.
M8 – Interfit strobies grid.
M9 – Rogue flashbender as snoot.
M10 – Black foamie thing.
Neil,
First of all I would like to let you know I like this contest very much. Why? Because besides the competitive element it is great and fun training for starting and little more advanced photographers. It requires a photographer’s eye to watch closely and name the differences and know what caused the differences in lighting. I’m one of those non-professional self-thought photographers. Most information I do get from the internet. Your tangents are a great resource.
My approach to getting modifiers lined up correctly with the images:
After having made printouts of both the modifiers as well as the images I started matching up the easy ones (Direct flash, Softbox, and the black foamie thing). I knew what the result would look like when using a black foamie thing since I recently started using it. The remaining images I divided into two groups. The first group was the Bounced flash. The other was lighting from the sides. The latter I noticed had two images in which the light was very directed. Further reasoning below:
Method 01: Obvious, harsh highlights and harsh shadows.
Method 02: The single closed system, so no light spilling / bouncing to fill the background.
Method 03: Competes with method 5 but since shadows in this image are softer I choose Fong Dong.
Method 04: Clearly bounced but since exposure is lower compared to method 3 and 5 it seems light is fended that’s why Rogue Flashbender.
Method 05: Last one remaining in the group of bounced flash. Shadow and highlights slightly harsher then method 3.
Method 06: Somewhat similar to method 7 however background is more lit because light travelled not only through the umbrella but also bounced from the back of it.
Method 07: More concentric compared to method 6.
Method 08: Hard to tell the difference between Method 08 and 09 but highlights less harsh.
Method 09: Harsher highlights made me choose for Rogue flashbender instead of the grid.
Method 10: No shadow on background (fended).
Comment by Ido van Gunst — June 20, 2011 @ 10:54 am
Method 01: Direct Flash
Method 02: Interfit Beauty Dish
Method 03: Rogue Bounce Card
Method 04: Gary Fong Lightsphere
Method 05: Dome Diffuser
Method 06: White Shoot-Though Umbrella
Method 07: Lastolite Ezybox
Method 08: Rogue Snoot
Method 09: Interfit Grid
Method10: Black Foamy Thing
Comment by Craig Hadorn — June 20, 2011 @ 1:08 pm
Here’s my list:
1. Direct Flash
2. Softbox
3. Dome Diffuser
4. Fong Lightsphere
5. Rogue Flashbender Bounce
6. Umbrella
7. Beauty Dish
8. Snout
9. Strobies Grid
10 Black Foamie Thing
Comment by Ed McCaffrey — June 20, 2011 @ 3:10 pm
1 – Direct Flash
2 – Interfit 15.5″ beauty dish
3 – Rogue Flash Bender as a bounce card
4 – Fong Dong
5 – Dome Diffuser
6 – Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
7 – Lastolite 15″ Softbox
8 – Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
9 – Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot
10 – Black Foamy Thing
Comment by Shoji Takahashi — June 20, 2011 @ 3:20 pm
Hi Neil, here my answer: (funny game!)
1) Direct Flash
2) Beauty Dish
3) Fong Dong
4) Dome diffuser
5) Rogue Flash bender as bounce card
6) Black Foamie Thing
7) Lastolite Softbox
8) Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
9) Rogue Flash bender as snoot
10) Westcott Shoot through umbrella
Thanks a lot
Comment by Michelangelo Longo — June 20, 2011 @ 4:45 pm
Hi Neil,
Here are my answers
Method 1: Direct Flash
Method 2: Beauty Dish
Method 3: Dome diffuser
Method 4: Fong Lightsphere
Method 5: Flashbender bounce
Method 6: Umbrella
Method 7: Softbox
Method 8: grid
Method 9: Rogue Flashbender as snoot
Method 10: Black foamie thing
I’m shooting Nikon – thanks to your experiences you shared at last year’s workshop.
Comment by Jeremy Miracle — June 20, 2011 @ 9:07 pm
1-Direct Flash
2-Beauty dish
3-Gary fong
4-Rogue flash bender bounce card
5-dome diffuser
6-umbrella
7-softbox
8-snoot
9-grid
10-Black foamie thing.
Comment by fernanda resende — June 20, 2011 @ 9:43 pm
Hi, I have a Canon DSLR, would love a speedlight :)
1 Direct Flash
2 Interfit 15.5″ Beauty Dish
3 Fong Dong
4 Rogue Flashbender bounce
5 Dome Diffuser
6 Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
7 Lastolite 15” softbox
8 Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot
9 Interfit Strobies 20 Degree Grid
10 Black Foamie Thing
Thanks for the opportunity
I’m from Australia
Comment by kat — June 21, 2011 @ 12:06 am
My Name is Guru Saini and I am from London, UK. I have Nikon D7000.
No 1. This is Direct Flash
No. 2 This is Beauty Dish
No. 3 This is Fong Dong
No. 4 This is Rogue Flashbender bounce
No. 5 This is Dome Diffuser
No. 6 This is Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
No. 7 This is Lastolite 15” softbox
No. 8 This is Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot
No. 9 Interfit Strobies 20 Degree Grid
No. 10 Black Foamie Thing
Thank you very much for sharing your experience with us.
Comment by G Saini — June 21, 2011 @ 7:57 am
My attempt :)
1. Direct Flash
2. Lastolite Softbox
3. Gary Fong
4. Rogue Flashbender Bouncecard
5. Dome Diffuser
6. Umbrella Diffuser
7. Beauty Dish
8. Interfit Strobies 20 Degree Grid
9. Rogue Flash as Snoot
10. Black Foamie Thing!!
This was fun :)
Comment by John Kent — June 21, 2011 @ 1:55 pm
1. Direct flash
2. Umbrella
3. Fong Dong
4. Rogue flashbender
5. Dome diffuser
6. Softbox
7. Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
8. Snoot
9. Beauty dish
10. Black foamie thing
Thank you.
Comment by Joel V. — June 21, 2011 @ 3:41 pm
The plastic was hardest to guess. I know the fong dong gives a wierd light pattern that’s recognizable if we saw the whole wall, but too bad not here. A lot of these can be made to look similar if ‘used correctly’ rather than used ‘as per instructions’
1) direct
2) beauty dish
3) dome diffuser
4) GFong lightsphere
5) bounce card
6) umbrella
7) softbox – directed
8) grid – falloff pattern
9) snoot – hard lines
10) black foamy thing – ok you didn’t say how long it was
Comment by Car — June 22, 2011 @ 12:12 am
1)Direct flash
2)Interfit beauty dish
3)Rogue Flashbender bounce
4)Dome diffuser
5)White umbrella
6)Black fomie thing
7)Lastolite 15″ softbox
8)interfit strobies grid
9)Rogue flashbender snoot
10)Fong lightsphere
Comment by Dan — June 22, 2011 @ 7:49 am
Hi Neil,
Thanks for all the great info and this great challenge!
1 Direct Flash
2 Interfit 15.5″ beauty dish
3 Rogue Flash Bender as a bounce card
4 Fong Dong a.k.a Fong Lightsphere
5 Dome Diffuser
6 Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
7 Lastolite 15″ Softbox
8 Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot
9 Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
10 Black Foamie Thing
I don’t think I’ve got them all correct, but in case I do, I’d prefer the Nikon Speedlight.
Comment by Willem — June 22, 2011 @ 11:54 am
Hi Neil,
Thanks for the contest!
1. Bare Flash
2. Interfit 15.5” beauty dish
3. Fong Dong
4. Rogue flash bender as a bounce card
5. Dome diffuser
6. Westcott shoot through umbrella
7. Lastolite 15” softbox
8. Rogue flash bender as snoot
9. Strobies 20 degree grid
10. Black foamy thing
I’m I Nikon guy in case I win. Thanks Again.
Comment by Joe — June 22, 2011 @ 2:45 pm
Neil,
Fun contest.
Method 1: Direct Flash
Method 2: Interfit 15.5″ Beauty Dish
Method 3: Fong Dong (Gary Fong Lightsphere)
Method 4: Dome Diffuser
Method 5: Rogue Flash Bender as bounce card
Method 6: Lastolite 15″ Softbox
Method 7: Black Foamie Thing
Method 8: Interfit Strobies 20 Degree Grid
Method 9: Rogue Flash Bender as Snoot
Method 10: Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
If, by chance, I win…I’m a Nikon guy.
Comment by Ben Shugart — June 22, 2011 @ 3:08 pm
Neil,
Awesome idea. Learn and win all at the same time.
1) Direct Flash
2) Interfit Beauty Dish
3) Gary Fong Lightsphere
4) Rogue Flash Bender
5) Dome Diffuser
6) Westcott White Umbrella
7) Lastolite Soft Box
8) Rogue Flash Bender Snoot
9) Interfit Strobies Grid
10) Black Foaming Thing
Thanks
BTW – I shoot Nikon
Comment by L. Brown — June 22, 2011 @ 10:52 pm
1. Direct Flash
2. Beauty Dish
3. Fong
4. Flash Bender as bounce
5. Dome Diffuser
6. Umbrella
7. Softbox
8. Grid
9. Snoot
10. Black Foamie Thing
A Nikon guy.
Comment by Dan — June 22, 2011 @ 11:40 pm
01. Direct Flash
02. Interfit 15.5″ Beauty Dish
03. Dome Diffuser
04. Rogue Flashbender Bounce
05. Fong Lightsphere
06. White Umbrella
07. Lastolite 15″ Softbox
08. Interfit Strobies Grid
09. Rogue Flashbender as Snoot
10. Black Foamie Thing
Canon through and through! Fingers crossed!
Comment by Ed Chuck — June 23, 2011 @ 3:16 am
1. direct flash
2. softbox
3. fong
4. dome diffuser
5. rogue card
6. umbrella
7. beauty dish
8. rogue snoot
9. interfit grid
10.black foamy thingy
Comment by William Ng — June 23, 2011 @ 3:51 am
1. Direct flash
2. Beauty dish
3. Hong Lightspehere
4. Rogue Flashbender
5. Dome diffuser
6. Umbrella
7. Softbox
8. Interfit strobies grid
9. Roguebender snoot
10. Black foamie thing
Comment by Alex — June 23, 2011 @ 8:53 am
Dear Neil,
Hereby another vote from the Netherlands. Keep up the good work! Still waiting for your new book coming out in Holland! Regards, Dick
01. Direct Flash
02. Interfit 15.5? beauty dish
03. Fong Dong Lightsphere
04. Rogue Flash Bender as bounce
05. Dome Diffuser
06. Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
07. Lastolite 15″ Softbox
08. Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot
09. Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
10. Black Foamie Thing
Comment by Dick Mulder — June 23, 2011 @ 10:03 am
Method 01. Direct Flash
Method 02. Interfit 15.5 Beauty Dish
Method 03. Fong Dong Lightsphere
Method 04. Rogue Flash Bender as Bounce
Method 05. Dome Diffuser
Method 06. Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
Method 07. Lastolite 15? Softbox
Method 08. Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot
Method 09. Interfit Strobies 20 Degree Grid
Method 10. Black Foamie Thing
Comment by Brian Elings — June 23, 2011 @ 10:06 am
1 Direct Flash
2 Interfit 15.5″ beauty dish
3 Fong Dong
4 Rogue Flash Bender as Bounce
5 Dome diffuser
6 Westcott shoot through umbrella
7 Lastolite 15″ softbox
8 Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot
9 Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
10 Black Foamie Thing
Comment by Tova — June 23, 2011 @ 12:35 pm
so, the airflight up to NJ allowed me time to analyze.. here’s my two cents:
1. Direct Flash
2. Beauty Dish
3. Rogue Flash Bender as a Bounce Card
4. Fong Lightsphere
5. Dome Diffuser
6. Umbrella
7. Lastolite Softbox
8. Rogue as a Snoot
9. Interfit Strobies Grid
10. Black Foamie
Thanks for the fun exercise/contest!
Comment by Amanda Tang — June 23, 2011 @ 1:19 pm
#1 – bare flash
#2 – beauty dish
#3 – Softbox
#4 – Rogue Flash Bender as bounce
#5 – White umbrella
#6 – Dome diffuser
#7 – Black foamie
#8 – Rogue Flash Bender as snoot
#9 – Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
#10 – gary fong
Comment by Andre Mouton — June 23, 2011 @ 1:43 pm
This was harder than I thought! My best guesses:
1. Direct Flash
2. Interfit 15.5? beauty dish
3. Rogue Flash Bender as a bounce card
4. Dome Diffuser
5. Fong Lightsphere
6. Black Foamie Thing
7. Lastolite 15? Softbox
8. Rogue Flash Bender as a Snoot
9. Interfit Strobies 20 degree grid
10. Westcott Shoot Through Umbrella
Comment by Scott — June 23, 2011 @ 7:36 pm
Neil,
Love your site, love your book and love the idea for this contest.
1) Direct Flash
2) Interfit Beauty Dish
3) Rogue Flash Bender
4) Gary Fong Lightsphere
5) Dome Diffuser
6) Westcott White Umbrella
7) Lastolite Soft Box
8) Rogue Flash Bender Snoot
9) Interfit Strobies Grid
10) Black Foamie Thing
Good luck to all,
P.S. I’m a nikon guy.
Comment by Benny B. — June 23, 2011 @ 10:05 pm
1. direct flash
2. Interfit 15.5″ beauty dish
3. Fong lightsphere
4. dome diffuser
5. Rogue flashbender bounce card
6. Westcott shoot-through umbrella
7. Lastolite 15″ softbox
8. Rogue flashbender as snoot
9. Interfit Strobies 20 deg. grid
10. black foamie thing
Comment by Kat — June 24, 2011 @ 12:16 am
Comment by Neil vN — June 24, 2011 @ 12:19 am