
review: Canon 24-70mm f/2.8L II
It was with great excitement that I received a review copy of the new Canon 24-70mm f/2.8L II (B&H) lens. There were several reasons that this highly-anticipated lens interested me.
My experience with Canon gear has been … let’s just say it’s been an uneven experience at times. There are specifically two lenses that got my ire – the Canon 16-35mm f/2.8 II and the (original) Canon 24-70mm f/2.8
The older Canon 24-70mm f/2.8 has a bit of a reputation. While some people love it, others hate it for being an inconsistent lens. It has a tendency to go out of calibration. Also, in my experience it tends towards softness when you zoom to 24mm, focusing at infinity. I dread it when a second shooter uses this lens, and by now I insist they use the much more reliable Canon 24-105mm f/4L zoom (B&H), instead. Then I know the images will be sharp, with much less chance of being back-focused. Yes, I’m not a fan of the older lens at all.
In contrast, I absolutely love the Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II IS (B&H). It is sharp, even wide open. Along with the aggressive stabilization, this makes it a wonderful lens to use in low light.
But there really was a gap with Canon in a bread-and-butter pro-spec top-notch reliable and crisply-sharp mid-range f/2.8 zoom. (It has to be all of those things!) Especially if you look at the superb Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8 AF-S (B&H).
But now the new Canon 24-70mm f/2.8L II has entered the scene.
Now, before I go any further, I need to explain how the reviews on my site work. Most often, the reviews are based on equipment that I actually own and use. But I also get equipment on loan from various suppliers, and from B&H. It is important to me that my reviews and the descriptions of my experiences with the gear, are real. Unlike another reviewer-of-every-lens-that-has-ever-existed, I can’t (and don’t want to) write reviews of equipment that I haven’t actually used. It is very important to me that the articles and writing on my website have integrity.
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Even with the reviews that I have written, I try to make it as interesting and generally informative even for someone who is using another brand. So that’s a bit of a balancing act there with all this.
So now that everyone has a sense of trepidation about this …
Just how awesome is the new Canon 24-70mm f/2.8L II ?
It’s kinda awesome.
- It is more compact than the previous version.
- The auto-focus was noticably faster, and seemed smoother and more sure.
- The build quality appears to be better as well.
- It just feels like a lens that inspires confidence.
So how does it perform optically?
I used it on several photo shoots with models, and the results that I got varied from holy crap, it’s sharp! all the way to WTF?
I couldn’t get it to be consistently sharp. Most images taken with this lens are razor-sharp … but others are mis-focused or just soft. It was inconsistent. I couldn’t get a handle on it to predict what was happening. So I returned this lens as a faulty example.
So as much as I would love to post a glowing review of this lens … I simply can’t. Sure, I could ask for another copy, and that would most likely work flawlessly. But I’d still have to remark that I had a sample that was faulty, out of the box. And we’d still be here at this point.
The lens seemed to be more soft when I was working at the wider angles. I also did a comparative test (on a tripod) of a warehouse facade to see the edge-to-edge sharpnesss. I compared it to the Canon 24-105mm f/4 and the older Canon 24-70mm f/2.8 which had just been calibrated by CPS. The results weren’t good. The Canon 24-105mm f/4 showed a lot of barrel distortion, but was sharper wide open at f/4 than the new Canon 24-70mm f/2.8 II was at f/4
So there was definitely something wrong with this lens. Unfortunately.
- In speaking to a friend of mine, his copy was soft at 70mm and he took it in to CPS. They calibrated the lens for him, and he is one very happy owner of this lens now.
- The Digital Picture mentions two of the three test lenses had issues with sharpness.
- Lens Rentals has a discussion on sample variation with the Canon 24-70mm f/2.8 II
- Borrow Lenses has a comparative test between the two versions of the Canon 24-70mm f/2.8
Finally … my opinion of this lens is clouded. I had wanted it to be stellar, right out of the box. It kinda was. But often enough, it also kinda wasn’t.
My recommendation is that if you’re interested in this lens, that you do test it thoroughly before committing those hard-earned $$$; or that if you buy it, you buy it from a reputable dealer like B&H who allows you to return equipment without hesitation.
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Hi Neil,
I didn’t have all the trooble you had with canon, but I don’t own the 24-70 markI for the same reason and use the 24-105, if I want to use a zoom (and the 17-40 instead of the 16-35 for the same reason).
I read about Krolop and Gerst beeing happy with a tamron 24-70 f2.8 with image stabilization! If you understand German or want to have look (Pictures with 1/15 sec), see here: http://www.krolop-gerst.com/blog/video-tutorial/video-technical-29-tamron-24-70mm-2-8-vc-im-praxistest/
I don’t find the pictures representive, but anyway, maybe the way to go? I never realy felt like buying a tamron yet, but who knows…
Comment by Jens — November 26, 2012 @ 4:15 am
I’ve had issues with my 24-70 (I) lens too. According to lensrentals, the plastic collars in the lens wear and fall apart, and this was confirmed when I sent my lens into Canon for repairs.
However a couple of months later, it was mis-behaving again, and had to go to Canon yet again for more repairs.
I’ve been keeping an eye out for more reviews of the 24-70 II, but it doesn’t look like it’s going to be a worthwhile replacement.
I’m considering getting a 24-105 instead.
Comment by Martin — November 26, 2012 @ 4:22 am
That’s really too bad with the experience Neil had, I had 2 copies of the older 24-70 previously and had same troubles, and like many others, I had the 24-105 and at least the images were consistently sharp and of course the superb Canon f2.8 IS 70-200 MkII lens is a stellar performer.
Knowing you can return items if faulty though is tantamount to buying a new car and sales person tells you on the way out, don’t forget when the computer fails just bring it back and re will calibrate it again for you.
A real shame actually as I still have Canon bodies and would have considered getting the MkII version but probably will hold off until I see more reviews [genuine ones, I mean like Neil's] but already in the back of one’s mind would be the thought it’s ‘going to not live up to expectation’.
Comment by Trev — November 26, 2012 @ 4:44 am
“The build quality appears to be better as well.” You feel this way despite the new plastic barrel?
Comment by Aputure — November 26, 2012 @ 5:39 am
Just to be different; my EF24-70mm F2.8L USM & EF16-35mm F2.8L USM II have both been flawless … I am however on my 3rd copy of the EF70-200 F2.8L IS USM II!
Comment by Colin — November 26, 2012 @ 7:36 am
That has to be one of the most annoying things about shooting–not being able to predict exactly what your gear is going to do, not being able to trust it. Thanks for the review.
Comment by csbphoto — November 26, 2012 @ 2:28 pm
I was dreading reading your review, expecting yet another glowing report as my 2 day old lens sits at Canon service waiting to be “confirmed as not to spec” before the retailer will take it back – i’m actually relieved you had a problem.
Comment by Simon — November 26, 2012 @ 5:25 pm
Hi Niel,
I just started follow your site and bought your books and have been learning a lot as I’m not a professional photographer. I also purchased quite few items via your affiliate links. I’m thinking about buying the soft box below to be used with Lastolite EZYBOX 24×24 but don’t see you mention anywhere on your site or your books about it. I’m wondering if you have experience with it “Lastolite Hotrod Octa Softbox (36″)”
Thanks,
Dustin
Comment by Dustin — November 26, 2012 @ 7:13 pm
Hi Neil,
I’ve had this lens for a few weeks and absolutely love it. I never loved the original lens for the same reasons.
I briefly switched to Nikon and LOVED the nikkor 24-70. I was scared to return to Canon this spring, but waited until the Fall to get my hands on this new version. I’m glad I waited and love it. I haven’t found any problems at all. Fingers crossed.
Nat
Comment by Natalie Licini — November 26, 2012 @ 9:11 pm
I don’ think one (or several) negative reviews of this lens means there are issues. (yet)Just like several positive reviews would not mean it is great. How many “bad” copies are out there? One out of 10? One out of 100? one out of 10,000?
Perhaps you need to get a second copy and test it…you owe it to your readers, maybe to yourself. If this was a Nikon lens, would you not get a new one since you never had a problem with one before and would assume its a fluke? You have had a lot of problems with Canon and this experience then would seem to be consistent with your previous results and fits that pattern, hence the reluctance to get that second copy.(?)
I have only rented the 24-70II and it delivered as promised and the majority of reports form users, thus far, have been positive.
Go on Neil…get that second copy and let us know :)
rc
Comment by Rudy — November 26, 2012 @ 10:05 pm
Comment by Neil vN — November 26, 2012 @ 10:38 pm
Well, that’s just ruined my day – ho-hum…..
Comment by Pete Mayes — November 27, 2012 @ 1:17 am
Am a 7D user…and love the 24-105mm lens for its consistency, reliability and the flexibility that it offers. In seeking a wider angle for my crop sensors I recently acquired a EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 (pretty much equivalent to the 24-70mm on full frame) and am astounded at the sharpness, lack of distortion etc. Not an L-series lens, and not cheap, but well worth getting!
Comment by Roy Barnes — November 27, 2012 @ 1:24 am
Not good news about the 24-70 11 it seems. But with all the other good glass out there for Canon shooters, I wonder at Canon’s pricing structure on this one. I wouldn’t consider it as a worthwhile investment for our studio use or even on our walk-arounds at events. We never have to produce huge prints for billboards so our primes 28, 50 and 85 give us results which satisfy our clients. Our workhorse, the 70/200 2.8 does everything we need in the studio. What the new 24-70 has made me do, is to look at the other offerings from Sigma/Tamron in the same focal length range but which are an awful lot easier on the wallet. BTW, I’ve never had a client say I don’t like the photo because you didn’t use the most expensive lens available.
Comment by Charles Mercer — November 27, 2012 @ 4:42 am
Hi Neil. You use flash lighting a lot in your work, so I’m sure an F4 lens like the 24-105 does the job well enough, as you don’t rely on DOF to isolate the subject. For the shallow DOF whores among us, me included, 2.8 or faster is a requirement and I love the flexibility of a zoom in many situations, so my hunger for the new 24-70 will continue. The only question is how to ensure I get a good one. It’s not cheap, so the grey market is tempting, but doesn’t offer the returns policy of your preferred retailers. The sample variance is really worrying.
Comment by Rob, Pretty in White — November 27, 2012 @ 1:09 pm
Neil,
I understand completely…once bitten, twice shy :)
Rudy
Comment by Rudy — November 30, 2012 @ 9:19 pm
I spent over £2000 on this lens a month ago. I find it quite soft at 70mm on my 1DX but on my 5DMK3 it is perfect. ?????
It is now on its way to CPS for re calibration. Rather dissapointed to say the least
Comment by Philip Lord — December 2, 2012 @ 5:09 pm
Neil, you say the Nikon 24-70 is superb. Is it sharp? My copy which has been checked by Nikon twice is tack sharp in the middle. But a bit off to the side it feels very soft to me, at f2.8. Now that’s where faces are for portrait shots. It just feels strange.
Comment by V — December 4, 2012 @ 12:32 am
Hi all,
I just received this lens couple weeks ago and did a series of test against my Zeiss prime lens and Canon 70-200 IS II. This Canon 24-70 L II lens is so inconsistency in either wide open and close down aperture and in either at wide-zoom at 24 or mid-zoom at 35 or 50 or at 70mm. It’s unpredictable. However, when it performs well, it’s sharp as the Canon 70-200 IS II or as my Zeiss 105 Mackro. I can see the subject’s eyebrow and pore and such but the color retention isn’t up to the lenses I have tested against… However, when it’s backfocus or out of focus, pictures show like someone was shooting with manual focus lens but didn’t know how to focus the subject even though the focus point is right in the eyes of the subject. I’m not sure about other owners out there whether they did thorough tested with this lens or not. But for me it’s a very big disappointed with this price range for this class of lens even B&H dropped it down to $2049.00. The works produced by this lens are unpredictable and I don’t want to take my chances. I got RMA from B&H and will ship it back this week.
Comment by Dustin — December 27, 2012 @ 1:32 pm