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dragging the shutter ~ bouncing flash ~ wireless TTL flash
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how to bounce your flash
A single flashgun, used directly, gives hard shadows because it is a small light source. The only way to soften the light, is to make the source of light larger. The most effective way of doing this with on-camera flash, is to bounce it. Not only do we have softer light then (because of it being a larger light source), but we also have the opportunity to make the light directional.

settings: 1/160 @ f3.2 @ 800 ISO .. using TTL flash; FEC = 0 EV
With this image, I bounced my flash to my left, and upwards. I wanted the light to come from an imaginary softbox near me. My approach to bounce flash photography indoors, is to consider it as if I am shooting in a studio with a single large softbox that I can position. For this reason, I try not to use the ceiling directly between myself and my subject to bounce my flash. That will usually create top-heavy light and shadows under their eyes … along with being flat light coming from the camera’s position.
If you bounce the flash off a wall to the side of you, or behind you, then the source of light relative to the subject, is much larger than if you had shot with the flash straight on. There is a world of difference.
For off-camera flash, we have a variety of choices how we can control our light source’s direction and quality of light. For on-camera flash, when working indoors with bounce-able surfaces around you, using bounce flash is a fast and effective way of dramatically improving the quality of light from our flash.
Just for comparison, here is the image without flash, so that it is clearly obvious how much flash was used in the top image. With the ambient light so low in the final image because of my choice of settings, what you see in the top image is nearly all light from the flash.

So where do I want my light to come from? Where would I have placed the softbox if I had been in a studio? This way of thinking usually gets me great results as in this photo above – the kind of light that it is difficult to tell whether off-camera flash was used, or effective bounce flash.
By bouncing off other surfaces like the walls or ceiling, you will also soften the light – if you’re using the correct angle. And here I want to stress something again – shooting with an omnibounce at 60 or 45 degrees, should not be a default way of using flash. For the best result, some thought needs to be put into how you use flash, and how you direct the light from your flash. Keep in mind that the intended result is to have no hard flash shadow. No tell-tale sign that on-camera flash was used.
Let’s look at an example where the light from the bounce flash is even more controlled:

settings: 1/100 @ f3.2 @ 800 ISO .. using TTL flash; FEC = -1.3 EV
Looking closely at this photograph, you can see the interplay between light and shade on her face. Instead of flat lighting as we would get if we bounced directly behind us, the light came from somewhere behind and above us, from our left. The approach here was the same as in the first image – where would I have placed my softbox had I been in the studio. The quality of light here is as good as you would get from off-camera lighting. Yet, it is on-camera bounce flash. The difference comes in how the flash was bounced.
A key factor in both these images, was that there was NO light directly from my flash on my subject. All the light was indirect.
I control the light from my on-camera flash, by flagging the light with a piece of black foam:
Follow-up articles:
- a video clip where I demonstrate how I use the black foamie thing
- directional bounce flash
- the black foamie thing
- why use a light modifier that is black?
- bounce flash and catchlights
- throw away the tupperware on your flash
- using bounce flash to mimic window light
- how to get ‘short lighting’ with bounce flash
With this second image, the available light makes a difference in that it gives a nice background with some out of focus highlights. My camera settings were dictated by the available light. I wanted enough of the light to register in the background. Since I was shooting with TTL flash, I had control over the ambient light by my choice of shutter speed, aperture and ISO.
adding flash to available light
The preceding page on dragging the shutter explained how to blend available light with flash.
Follow-up articles:
- flash photography essentials
- when aperture does not control flash
- exposure metering and flash
- combining flash and available light
To summarize:
If I bounce my flash by tilting and swiveling it, I get to bounce the light at an angle – away from the subject. Then the light that comes back, appears more directional. There are areas of shadow and light. Bounce flash need not look flat. By keeping the basic physics in mind of angles of incidence and reflectance, it is usually easy to figure out where to bounce from to enhance the available light, or how to make the bounce light soft but directional.
TTL flash or manual flash?
I mostly shoot with TTL flash when I shoot with on-camera flash.
Off-camera flash is usually easier to deal with as manual flash.
Since I frequently shoot with TTL, I don’t often use the full power that the strobe is capable of, unless I’m using the flash at the extreme end of what it can push out. If your flash is your main source of light, it is important that you stay within the range of the flash’s output capabilities, with an appropriate iso and aperture selection.
Bouncing your flash reduces your flash’s output considerably – but your flash should compensate for this loss automatically if you shoot in TTL or Auto mode on the flash. That is, if you stay within the flashgun’s power range. If somehow the technology doesn’t quite match the theory here, just know that this is how your specific camera and speedlight responds … and dial in a new flash exposure compensation default when you bounce.
next: Using wireless TTL flash to give you softer flash …
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Hi Neil,
Your various tutorials are really interesting and the quality of your work is outstanding. I am interested to know how you calculate flash compensation, is there a way I can work out how far my flash will travel when i bounce it off a surface or is it just practise?
Looking forward to your response.
Helen
Comment by Helen Batt — August 22, 2009 @ 8:30 am
Comment by Neil — August 23, 2009 @ 5:17 pm
Neil, are you a fan of back lighting? I see a lot of people doing this and I am a proponent of this technique on occasion. The reason I ask is because I don’t see many images with backlighting. Is is because you are trying to stay away from “obvious” use of flash and prefer to be more subtle?
Comment by Max Surkov — September 2, 2009 @ 8:51 pm
Comment by Neil — September 11, 2009 @ 4:44 pm
I have been using flash indoors at a trade event I kept the shutter speed at 125 so that I could hand hold the camera. I set the iso at 800-1000 to allow for movement of subjects. The problem I have is depth of field. I have a very shallow depth of field and only some parts of one person are sharp. How can I increase the depth of field? Is it just a case of take a tripod and slow the shutter or just set up f8 or f9.5?
Comment by Chris Brown — October 1, 2009 @ 4:18 pm
Comment by Neil — October 1, 2009 @ 4:47 pm
Hi Neil,
In bouncing the flash in TTL mode, the flash will automatically compensate its output. So, why do you use a + EC in your first and last photos?
I admire your work and I am thrilled that I have found out about your tutoring site. Thanks.
Genevieve
Comment by Genevieve — October 12, 2009 @ 11:55 am
Comment by Neil — October 12, 2009 @ 12:24 pm
Hi Neil,
I love your site and have found it so helpful in laying things out in layman’s terms. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I was wondering what you do when you don’t have the option of bouncing flash – say the building is all glass and you need to shoot inside or you’re outside and just want to use your speedlite on camera and not bring in off camera lighting. Would you use something like the flip it (http://www.dembflashproducts.com/) and stay in TTL? Or would you just point the flash toward the subject in TTL? What do you think produces the best results? Many thanks for your help!
Comment by Margaret — October 13, 2009 @ 2:48 pm
Comment by Neil — October 15, 2009 @ 3:35 am
Neil, I came up with a solution for those times when I will have to shoot direct flash, especially when I have to move about and have no time for setup. I purchased a soft box attachment that measures 8.5 inches across, and I then mount the flash on a bracket that holds it above and to the left of the camera about 15 inches from the lens, and wired via a shoe cord. I had to change the bracket so it holds the flash to the left instead of directly over the lens as it was designed to do. In combination with the soft box, I tape some warming gel over the flash head, and pull the diffuser on the flash unit down. You still get harder shadows than is ideal, but alot better compared to direct flash. The closer to the subject you are, the better this setup works.
Jeff P
Comment by Jeff P — November 2, 2009 @ 12:27 am
Hi Neil, I was wondering how ETTL works when using bounce flash. Since there is no actual measurable camera flash to subject distance, how does (or does it not?) ETTL know what the correct flash exposure is?
Comment by Alvin Ngan — January 14, 2010 @ 5:17 pm
Alvin, ETTL flash does a pre-flash and measures the exposure based on that. Distance does not get calculated.
Comment by George — January 14, 2010 @ 6:52 pm
Comment by Neil — January 15, 2010 @ 11:50 pm
Hi Neil,
When you use your bouncing flash technique with canon 580EX II, have you usually use flash head at 105mm zoom setting (manual zoom) or flash head bounce position 50mm zoom setting (auto zoom when rotating the flash head to bounce position)?
Thanks Neil
Comment by Dendy — March 26, 2010 @ 12:14 am
Comment by Neil vN — March 26, 2010 @ 3:52 am
Thanks Neil, I have one more question for you.
For you how maximum high ceiling or wall, possible we can use bounce technique?
Thanks Neil
Comment by Dendy — March 27, 2010 @ 4:52 am
Comment by Neil vN — March 27, 2010 @ 1:40 pm
Hi Neil,
In the first photo, where the bride in front of the table lamp, in which side is located the window?
Thanks again,
Alfredo
Comment by Alfredo Medina — March 27, 2010 @ 3:05 pm
Comment by Neil vN — March 28, 2010 @ 1:02 am
Neil, i’m new beginner photographer. What you mean zoom flashhead out to maximum that is 24mm or 105mm on Canon 430 EX II?
Thank you so much Neil.
Comment by Joe — April 1, 2010 @ 12:07 am
Comment by Neil vN — April 1, 2010 @ 1:38 am
Neil, thanks for your explanation. That’s very help full for me. GBU Neil
Comment by Joe — April 1, 2010 @ 2:26 am
Hi Neil, i’m little confuse about metering ambient light, you said you always keep the ambient light under exposure about 2 stop or more and then you use ttl flash to bring up the exposure on your subject, what and where the position you metered for you ambient light your subject or your subject’s background? Thanks Neil
Comment by Anton — April 7, 2010 @ 1:37 pm
Comment by Neil vN — April 8, 2010 @ 6:17 am
Neil, what your’s ttl setting Average or Evaluative on canon camera when you bounce your flash?
Thanks Neil
Comment by Andi — April 9, 2010 @ 3:19 pm
Comment by Neil vN — April 27, 2010 @ 12:34 pm
Hi Neil,
I have a question about bouncing the flash from a wall. Last week I did a wedding in a very small room with a red colored wooden ceiling but with wihite walls. I decided to try bouncing flash of this walls, but I was very close to the walls (about 50 cm to 1 meter or so). The light was still very hard. Is it because I was to close to wall? Is there a miniumen distance to bounce from a wall? Thank you for your help!
Comment by Alwin — May 22, 2010 @ 6:44 am
Comment by Neil vN — May 28, 2010 @ 12:09 pm
Hi Neil,
I have a question about bouncing the flash. Next week, I will take photo in area a blue colored ceiling and cream colored walls with tungsten lighting. There is still possible if i use bouncing technique or i must use direct flash to get more natural color on my photo, Thank you for your help Neil
Comment by Joe — June 9, 2010 @ 12:45 pm
Comment by Neil vN — June 9, 2010 @ 1:51 pm
Hi Neil,
I recieved one of your books for christmas and found it extremely helpful. I too hate the look of direct flash. I am new to bounce flash and am trying to understand the angles required to get the correct lighting effect; angle of reflectance = angle of incidence. I am also wondering how to get rid of double catchlights in my subjects eyes. I am hoping to take one of your workshops in the future but until then I hope you can help.
Comment by Susan Hanna — June 16, 2010 @ 10:44 pm
Comment by Neil vN — June 16, 2010 @ 11:03 pm
Hey Neil,
There are times when the room’s walls and ceiling is just too dark-colored, or made up of glass, and will not allow me to bounce my flash around. If I were to use a bounce card/bouncer to stick onto my flash, how big would it have to be? (inches)
… I hope you can help me with this.
Comment by Daniel Cruz — June 18, 2010 @ 12:54 pm
Comment by Neil vN — June 18, 2010 @ 1:00 pm
Hi Neil,
I sent you the example to the email list for you contact for tangents. If that was not a good way to get the exaple to you let me know.
Susan
Comment by Susan Hanna — June 28, 2010 @ 11:33 pm
Hi Neil,
I had a quick look on here but couldnt find an answer to my query.
I’ve been asked to do some event photography which will be in a bar / night club. This particular location will have high ceilings and with the number of people that will be gathered there, bouncing the flash will be difficult.
I’ll be armed with a Canon 430EX speedlite and a Canon 50D, do you have any advice on what I could do to get reasonably flattering lighting on the models (it’ll be a fashion / runway type event).
Comment by Les M — August 8, 2010 @ 1:59 am
Comment by Neil vN — August 8, 2010 @ 3:00 am
Hello Neil
when i hold my D3S on Vertical position iam experienceing a problem with bounsing flash over my right shoulder how do you deal with such situations? positioning the subjuct to the left side and bounse the flash over left shoulder? pls help
Anoop
Comment by Anoop Nair — August 8, 2010 @ 3:04 am
Comment by Neil vN — August 9, 2010 @ 11:46 am
Hi Neil, a bit off-topic here but regarding the 3rd pic – do you have any advice about focusing on very low f-numbers? How on earth can you pull it off with moving subjects and is it something that you can achieve consistently? Is the solution 10fps??? I assume you focus and recompose. I find I have too many OOF shots with my 50mm at f/1.4 …
Comment by Clifford — September 5, 2010 @ 2:10 pm
Comment by Neil vN — September 16, 2010 @ 5:59 pm
Hi Neil, I am from Nepal – a poor but small and very beautiful country in South Asia – country of Mount Everest. May be I was late to discover your website but now after having discovered it, I have gotten addicted to it. I ve learnt so many things which I could ve never learnt otherwise. I am a beginner and I mostly click pictures in either P or A mode ( I got Nikon D70s – 18-105 mm lens and SB600 flash ). But I m not fully satisfied with my exposures which I think are either slightly underexposed or over exposed most of the time. So, now I want to switch to manual mode for which I would apprecaite highly if you could reply my following queries :
a) How do I decide upon what aperture and speed to get the perfect exposure? I just want to click the sharp and perfectly exposed pictures like you do.
b) If my camera’s meter shows f-5.6 and speed 1/40 as correct exposure inside a room and now if I want to add flash to my subject, what changes in aperture and speed shud I make for the correct exposure? Coz flashes would definitely be too bright
c) In your examples, I ve noticed that in flash photography, in some pics you use speed of 1/250 and in some pics even as low as 1/6. So, please advise when to use such a low speed like 1/6 and fast speed like 1/250 when using flash.
d) Can your book be delivered in Nepal too if I order it?
I am a very eager student who want to excel in photography and you valued guidance and advices would be highly appreciated. Thanks once again.
Comment by Suraj — September 17, 2010 @ 4:51 am
Comment by Neil vN — September 20, 2010 @ 6:10 pm
Thanks a lot Neil for bothering to reply.. It was really really nice of you..After going through your links only, I started clicking in RAW.. I would definitely try to follow what you have advised… thanks once again..
Comment by Suraj — September 24, 2010 @ 8:08 am
Dear Neil, Please check this site http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=46385&id=100001270194854&l=bd909c67ad
I took few shots at night without flash.. but they were no good.. but as per ur guidance, I had clicked pics in RAW and so I cud modify the exposure of the pics..
thanks
Comment by Suraj — September 25, 2010 @ 3:58 am
Hi Neil,
I am french.
I recently bought your book (in english because your book is not translated yet, one day maybe) and I have improved my photos thanks to you.
I have a question when I bounce the flash with your black foam :
My flashgun employs auto zoom to cover a range of focal lengths from 24 mm to 85 mm, it depends which focal length I use.
So do I need to manually adjust zoom coverage with the black foam ?
In case I do, which one do I must select ? The widest (24 mm) or the closest (85 mm) or it doesn’t matter when I use the black foam ?
Thanks for your advice.
Lionel
Comment by Lionel — October 8, 2010 @ 11:26 am
Comment by Neil vN — October 8, 2010 @ 12:11 pm
Hi Neil. My wife bought your book along with a bunch of other photography titles a little while ago. I’m one to learn as much as I can from the internet, and when I recommended your blog to her, I happened to notice we had your book! Too funny. Highly recommend your book! And, great job on your blog.
I’m a total bounce over the shoulder convert. Took me a while to grasp that the camera can be on full manual and the flash would compensate in TTL. It’s amazing what these flashes can do even in ballrooms with 40′ ceilings.
I shot alongside a photog at a political fundraiser who kind of snickered a comment about my flash pointing the wrong way. Guess who’s got more photos on the candidate’s website?
Now to my question: Our next wedding/reception shoot involves a hotel banquet room with relatively low ceilings, so I’m not worried about power. Unfortunately, the house lights are CFLs (warm or “soft” lights to my eyes). The walls and soffits are a mustard yellow color, and the main ceiling panels are medium toned wood (kind of like a natural cherry). Any suggestions on how you might gel for that if at all? I shoot RAW and post in Aperture but don’t want to spend a lot of time fixing stuff lit by the awful ambient. I also have an Expo Disk, but rarely use it as it kind of slows me down during the course of the night (e.g. speeches at head table lit differently from the area where the B&G cut the cake).
Thanks,
Kepano
Comment by Kepano — October 31, 2010 @ 3:41 am
Comment by Neil vN — October 31, 2010 @ 8:55 am
Hi Neil, Great information………….as always
Question, Have you ever used the ABBC ” better bounce” cards. If so what are your thoughts regarding the product. Possible use , on camera flash outside with nothing to bounce from ?
Comment by Dickie Gill — October 31, 2010 @ 10:31 am
Comment by Neil vN — October 31, 2010 @ 11:39 pm
Hi Neil,
Last week I was shooting a wedding in a dark church with a high ceiling. Still it was possible to bounce my flash from the high ceiling. My settings were Iso 1600 and 1/40 + f 3.5 But because the church was so very dark my bounced flash was my main light source. I think that I used almost full power of my flash (ttl) to get the light bounced back from te ceiling at my subject.
In this situation I was getting some strange pictures where it sometimes looked has if I had used direct flash instead of bounced flash. That means these pictures where very over exposed looking, like 2 or 3 stops to much flashlight was used in direct flash mode.
The next day I did a test to find out what the problem was. I made pictures from my girlfriend at night in an open field where there was nothing to bounce flash. I tilt my flash straight up just like I did in the church and set the output in manuel mode at full power. A big suprise for me: despite the fact that my flash was pointed straight up to the dark sky there was a lot of flashlight on the face of my girlfriend. It looked bad and very much over exposed, the same effect as the day before in the church.
So this means that when bouncing flash from a ceiling and using (almost) full power of the flash (because of an very high ceiling) there is a lot of flashlight falling straight on your subject too!
What is your opinion of this? Looking forward to your answer and thank you.
Regards,
Alwin
Comment by Alwin — November 21, 2010 @ 4:42 pm
Comment by Neil vN — November 22, 2010 @ 8:26 pm
Neil, in the “Christmas light” lite patio, you state that you’re using two stobes, one off camer to the left (I believe) and that is being fired by a pocket wizard and the main light in camera mounted or just off camera? Where is the other wizard, on camera or tied to the flash like the one we see with your 2nd camera girl with the famous Black Flag demo article? Are your stobes both set to manual? I believe that is the only way you can go once you take the flash off camera without a cord mount.
Let me know, as previously stated, love your work and the help you provide. Is your updated book due out next year a drastic change from your current one? read this one in 3 days… can you tell I’m hungary :-)
thanks
mike
Comment by Michael — November 23, 2010 @ 12:03 am
Comment by Neil vN — November 30, 2010 @ 8:30 pm
Hi Neil,
Just wondering how you would approach the following scenario:
Fishing out in a canoe, in the middle of a lake (no glassy water and choppy enough that you cannot have too slow of a shutter speed). The other guy catches a fish and wants a picture taken – holding it far away in front of him so it looks bigger ;-)
What would be your advise on getting around the typical ‘documentation’ type direct flash shot? How/where to get enough indirect light when stopped down while maintaining a reasonable ISO setting?
Besides, there is obviously quite some limitation regarding the bulk of the equipment I can take with me and how much I can move around to set up reflectors…
Thanks,
Chris
Comment by Chris — December 2, 2010 @ 10:20 am
Comment by Neil vN — December 2, 2010 @ 11:22 am
Hi, Neil,
if clients want large size prints from their wedding, will u recommend D3s or other high mega pixel camera? thanks!
lisa
Comment by LISA — December 2, 2010 @ 11:01 pm
Comment by Neil vN — December 6, 2010 @ 11:19 am
Neil, i did not use a bounce card or diffuser panel. Just pointed the flash upwards to the ceiling. You say it’s unlikely to get such bad light and over-exposure from a flash that is bouncing indirect light onto your subject. But I think that when using full power of the flash (Canon 580 EX II) and bouncing to a ceiling then there is a lot of flashlight that’s hitting the subject straight forward, like directc flash was used. Maybe it’s just the canon 580 that is showing this.. I don’t know. But has I said i did a test to confirm this and if you like I can mail you the pictures. The solution, by the way, is of course using the Black Foam Thing to block the light that is going forwwards. But that’s not the point here. It’s about a problem I think not may photograpers are ware of.
Comment by Alwin — December 7, 2010 @ 7:32 am
Hi Neil, good to see you’ve updated your earlier posts.I’ve been an avid follower, hope you come out with your second book soon.
I wish to point out that there might be a typo up there. “With this image, I bounced my flash to my right, and upwards”. But from the image it looks to be you’re bouncing to your left and upwards, since the shadow on the nose is on the right (camera’s right). You can delete my post if it is wrong, since I do not want to spoil the reading experience of your posts and comments.
Thank you and have a great 2011!
Comment by AL — January 2, 2011 @ 10:55 pm
Comment by Neil vN — January 2, 2011 @ 11:05 pm
In the first part of your new article. Did you mean to say 45 and 60 degrees not 45′and 60′ The degree symbol is a small circle above and to the right of the numbers
in the same position as the slash mark in the feet designation. on a standad key board. I can’t figure out how to accomplish this..
Comment by Charles Mitchell — January 3, 2011 @ 6:23 am
Comment by Neil vN — January 3, 2011 @ 9:13 am
Neil
Fantastic update of an already great article, it’s really refreshing to see such good advice regarding on camera flash & the great results that can be acheived in the real world. We don’t all have studios to work in & off camera flash is not always practical. Keep up the good work, all the best for 2011 & beyond.
Comment by Adrian — January 3, 2011 @ 9:29 am
Neil
Thanks for this excellent article. Wish you a very happy & prosperous new year. I am sure this new year will bring more great topic/articles from your blog.
I did not understand this comment from your post above “I control the light from my on-camera flash, by flagging the light with a piece of black foam”.
If you were using your oncamera flash to bounce light, how is the above possible? Or or you referring to a remote flash bouncing light on to the subject and you have an oncamera flash to trigger the remote one.
Comment by Suresh — January 3, 2011 @ 5:13 pm
Comment by Neil vN — January 3, 2011 @ 5:20 pm
The degree sign is figure out by the ASCII character 167 (Alt 167 on the Windows PC).
Alfredo
Comment by Alfredo Medina — January 3, 2011 @ 8:06 pm
It’s Alt-(Numpad 176) for Degree sign, not 167 and u need to use numpad. Don’t know it for Mac.
Comment by AL — January 3, 2011 @ 10:36 pm
Al,
I do not know if the problem is on my laptop, but when I type Alt+(numpad 176), comes out this character ?, however when I type Alt+(numpad 167) the character that comes out is º which I believe is the degree sign.
In it’s way 45 + Alt+(numpad 167) comes out as 45º.
Comment by Alfredo Medina — January 4, 2011 @ 8:34 am
Although I understand your reasoning for updating the photos and the blog, I must admit that I kinda prefer the wedding bias.
Imho wedding photography represents the pinacle of non-studio portrait photography – you’re on the fly, in all environments, with people having things to do and not just stand there for you to keep re-adjusting your shots… if you can make nice portrait shots in this environment, then you’ll be able to make great shots every where else.
Oh well, at least I have your book… Or maybe I should start saving the pages of your other posts onto my computer?
Comment by Kevin — January 6, 2011 @ 9:54 am
Comment by Neil vN — January 7, 2011 @ 3:07 am
Hello Neil,
Thank you for all the very helpful articles you write. In many of the photo samples you use to illustrate bounced, on-camera flash onto a subject that more or less faces the camera, it seems you are using either an 85mm or 70-200 lens. This makes sense as to get a roughly 45 degree angle bounce off of a wall to the side of the subject, you’re going to be some ways away from the subject. My question is what is your bounce technique of choice when a shorter lens is required? Do you then opt to bounce behind you or still to the side, neither of which would not emulate that optimum studio softbox position? Thanks for any feedback.
Best,
Mark
Comment by Mark — January 8, 2011 @ 2:49 am
Comment by Neil vN — January 8, 2011 @ 2:58 am
Direct flash can be quite nice looking too, only not on line with the lens:)
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww24/igogosh/A550/DSC01189.jpg
Comment by Sergei Zhukov — January 8, 2011 @ 6:41 pm
Comment by Neil vN — January 8, 2011 @ 6:49 pm
Love your bounce flash
However when called to take professional pictures (for money) of kids or people at home or in a hall. I can NOT afford to rely on bounce flash I must bring my own extra lighting in order to deliver a reliable product.
Bouncing flash gives you too many variables that are outside your control. Coloured walls and cellings, low cellings ,high cellings
Relying on bounce flash only, is not being fair to the customer.
It’s ok for the ocassional picture or to get you out of trouble but NOT for reliable consistant results.
Comment by Mike — March 7, 2011 @ 6:20 pm
Comment by Neil vN — March 7, 2011 @ 6:22 pm
Hi Neil,
Thanks again for a great article and some very convincing images. I have been experimenting with a hige bounce card (the size of a ping pong bat) and its been working really well.
Thanks again, keep up the good work :)
Comment by Christopher Martin — June 1, 2011 @ 3:33 am
Hi Neil,
I am a huge fan of your blog, and I have had great success with using the BFT to create soft, flattering light in wedding and other scenarios.
One common scenario I have encountered is that the head table is frequently placed against a wall. While the bounce flash provides nice lighting to the subjects sitting at the table, the back wall often reflects much of the light back, and this creates a fairly flat looking photo. In some cases, it looks like there is no separation between the subject and the wall.
While there are obvious ways to light with off-camera lighting etc, have you come across a way to bounce in a more confined manner? I have played with the idea of using a snoot so that it would be a tighter beam on the ceiling, and hopefully a tighter, more confined bounce light. I realize this is terribly inefficient, but just wondering what your thoughts are and if you’ve found an easy solution. I have yet to try the bounced snoot.
Thanks
Alvin
Comment by Alvin — September 22, 2011 @ 10:55 am
Comment by Neil vN — September 22, 2011 @ 6:44 pm
Hi Neil,
This is definitely the most informative website on photography I’ve come across. I like how you simplify things for the mass to understand. Please keep up the great work and I must say the incorporated example pictures tell a thousand words. I am still relatively new to flash photography but I am starting to get bits and bits the more I go through your website.
Just a very quick and basic question on the technical part of bounce flash: When I use bounce flash in a room that’s relatively dark (as in the flash will act as the main light source), I notice that the camera meter mostly always shows that the eventual picture will be grossly underexposed. What confuses me is that the outcome isn’t as underexposed as what the meter suggested. Dialing in some positive FEC lightened the picture up even more, but with the camera metering still showing mass underexposure. At least I am getting the result I want with bounce flash, but I can’t seem to work my way around why the meter shows what it shows, that is, underexposure. When I balance the meter to what the camera considers to be “good exposure,” through aperture, shutter, and ISO, the pictures come out overexposed. Any help on this will be greatly appreciated!
My gears: D3s + 24-70 F2.8 + SB-900
Modes: Camera Manual Exposure, Flash TTL, Manual ISO
Regards,
Charles
Comment by Charles Hsu — October 4, 2011 @ 2:58 pm
Comment by Neil vN — October 4, 2011 @ 4:20 pm
Thanks for your reply, Neil. So is it fair to say that I can somewhat ignore the camera meter when I execute a bounce flash as long as the picture itself turns out to be properly exposed?
Comment by Charles Hsu — October 4, 2011 @ 9:30 pm
Comment by Neil vN — October 4, 2011 @ 11:44 pm
Thanks Neil!!! :)
Comment by Charles Hsu — October 5, 2011 @ 2:39 am
Hi Neil,
Let’s cut to the chase, what would you do if the room (restaurant that is dim and has tungsten lights almost like candle light) has high BLACK ceiling, dark carpent, and the 3 side walls has mirror from waist up to about 2-3 feet from the ceiling? Also, the front of the room facing the road is all glass. I used your technique posted in http://neilvn.com/tangents/2011/09/07/black-foamie-thing-to-the-rescue-bouncing-flash-forward/ and the picture turned out to be underexposed. The subject close to me is somewhat OK. I just need some general idea of how to face this kind of situation. I don’t know how to post the picture that I took to show you what I’m talking about.
I played the technique in this post in the 10 W x 15 L x 10 H room, and the result turned out the same as the sample pictures are.
I know that you are (probably) extremely busy, but I would be nice to hear what your opinions and suggestions are.
Thank you in advance,
Ups
Comment by Ups — November 15, 2011 @ 11:01 am
Comment by Neil vN — November 15, 2011 @ 1:47 pm
This maybe a silly question but did you use and kind of diffuser while bouncing the flash in the pictures?
Comment by Rayan Hassan — January 4, 2013 @ 3:50 pm
Comment by Neil vN — January 5, 2013 @ 12:41 am
Hello Neil,
Thanks a lot. This proved helpful in my case.
Greetings from Namibia, Africa.
Gotlieb
Comment by Amkwa — April 9, 2013 @ 2:43 am
Hello Neil,
Thanks for your great articles. I love your Flash Photography book too.
A quick question:
When you are bouncing an on-camera flash off a wall, isn’t the pre-flash metering for the wall as opposed to the subject? Since the light has to travel farther to get to the subject doesn’t it mean that the flash would lose power by the time it gets to the subject? If that makes sense, does that mean that I have to increase the FEC for better exposure?
Thanks!
Comment by Cyrus — April 17, 2013 @ 8:34 pm
Comment by Neil vN — April 17, 2013 @ 9:36 pm